Just Stop It!!

what about James Franklin? Heck, he won at Vandy and really didn't have much to work with other than a couple of ballplayers. He is getting good recruiting classes for them, just think what it would be at UT.

Agreed, but...

Us UT fans who have nothing left but our "Tradition" to brag about would never stoop to hiring the head coach of Vanderbilt. Even though he has proven that his is a great coach and recruiter.
 
Just can't take a chance on Petrino. He did things at Louisville and the Falcons that were unethical but what he did at Arkansas was flat wrong. Arkansas firing him saved them from liability (at least so far) but the next school could be held liable because of prior knowledge of his actions. According to common law, the first time your dog bites someone you are not liable. After that you should know that your dog maty strike again. Therefore your liable. It is kind of like that IMO.
. He can walk around campus butt naked as long as he wins. All the high and mighty moralists that are looking down on Petrino need to check themselves next time they are holed up looking at porn, or drinking to excess, or trying to remove that log from their eye.
 
Stoops, like my granny told me one time.... Money talks and bull**** walks. Throw first Tennessee bank at him and let him do work.

I am surprised at the Stoops talk. He just built a huge mansion in Norman in a highly visible location. Looks like he has planted a flag and is there for the long term.
 
Fisher - have you ever been to Tallahassee Florida? I lived there for 4 years. It's an easy place to recruit to. He should dominate in state recruiting (though he certainly isn't at the moment). There's alot more for a young black athlete to do in Tallahassee than there is in Gainesville. The population demographics definitely favor Florida State. So, there's no reason to suspect that his recruiting (Fisher's only real strength) would be the same if he came to one of the whitest towns in the southeast. And even if it did, a guy who can recruit but can't coach them up isn't going to beat Saban.

Tressel - You've yet to make a single logical argument for why Tressel could suddenly beat the best in the SEC at Tennessee, when he couldn't with Ohio State teams loaded with talent.

Stoops - plenty of people have offered him plenty of money in the past. He already makes plenty. He's not coming.

this myth that a coach that did well outside the SEC can't do well in it is just that - a myth

Saban cut his teeth in the big 10, Meyer cut his teeth out west, Les Miles in the big 12, sumlin at houston - all have been winners

Tressel would do very well here - im not sure i would hire him considering we are on probation - but he would do well

simple truth is there are many significant upgrades to DD that are likely in play - Jimbo, Fedora, Stoops, Tressel, Petrino - all are HUGE upgrades to the coaches we have had the last 4 years
 
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this myth that a coach that did well outside the SEC can't do well in it is just that - a myth

Saban cut his teeth in the big 10, Meyer cut his teeth out west, Les Miles in the big 12, sumlin at houston - all have been winners

Tressel would do very well here - im not sure i would hire him considering we are on probation - but he would do well

simple truth is there are many significant upgrades to DD that are likely in play - Jimbo, Fedora, Stoops, Tressel, Petrino - all are HUGE upgrades to the coaches we have had the last 4 years

This +1000. A good coach from outside the SEC can come in and do well at UT. It will take some time to get back to where we were in the 90's but it can and will be done. Everyone needs to calm down and take a chill pill. Better days are coming.
 
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this myth that a coach that did well outside the SEC can't do well in it is just that - a myth

Saban cut his teeth in the big 10, Meyer cut his teeth out west, Les Miles in the big 12, sumlin at houston - all have been winners

Tressel would do very well here - im not sure i would hire him considering we are on probation - but he would do well

simple truth is there are many significant upgrades to DD that are likely in play - Jimbo, Fedora, Stoops, Tressel, Petrino - all are HUGE upgrades to the coaches we have had the last 4 years

Good post
 
If Hart does not hire Stoops, Patterson, Gundy or Peterson (or somehow mend the fence and hire Gruden), he needs to be shown the door. I'm mature enough to know that you don't make a move like firing your head coach without a plan. In this case, a damn good plan. From what I see, there was no plan other than to try and deflect criticism over the VU loss with a kneejerk firing. Not gonna say Hart shouldn't be our AD until I see the fruit of his efforts, but I'm really close to it.
 
The original OG, original Grizz.

Gruden would have been a great spark for a down program. Recruiting would improve and excitement would have been at a high level.

He would have still lost a lot of games next year and wouldn't have been a sure thing, no matter what others say. Too many factors.
We just need a coach that can enliven the program and sign a few ballers. We can do it without gruden. Would've been entertaining, but oh well.
 
The original OG, original Grizz.

Gruden would have been a great spark for a down program. Recruiting would improve and excitement would have been at a high level.

He would have still lost a lot of games next year and wouldn't have been a sure thing, no matter what others say. Too many factors.
We just need a coach that can enliven the program and sign a few ballers. We can do it without gruden. Would've been entertaining, but oh well.

Exactly! If Gruden really wanted to coach here then surely they would have done everything possible to make it happen.
 
Nope I think he would be great. Just not the home run we were looking for. This hire is much than just getting a good coach it's also about the environment and the fan base recruiting etc... Jon Gruden is the only one who can do that!
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Tennessee Ike

need a coach before all the good player are gone!!! cause if not 4more loseing years
 
If Hart does not hire Stoops, Patterson, Gundy or Peterson (or somehow mend the fence and hire Gruden), he needs to be shown the door. I'm mature enough to know that you don't make a move like firing your head coach without a plan. In this case, a damn good plan. From what I see, there was no plan other than to try and deflect criticism over the VU loss with a kneejerk firing. Not gonna say Hart shouldn't be our AD until I see the fruit of his efforts, but I'm really close to it.

Fart should be Hired!
 

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