Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has passed away

[volbeast33]

Look on the bright side, Luther. They can NEVER claim the moral high ground again after Trump. They are fervently supporting an adulterer who has been married at least 4 times, who openly brags about sexually assaulting women, who makes fun of soldiers who died defending our country, who makes blatantly racist and xenophobic comments and does not denounce others who do, and the list goes on and on. They have sold their souls to stay in power and will never be able to claim some type of moral superiority like they have in the past.

Neither side can claim the moral high ground..... both sides are hypocrites and don’t care anything about the American people.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I'm not entirely convinced this isn't a gimmick by Trump. He announced he'd choose a woman. Is he doing that because he actually believes a woman is the best choice, or is he trying to smooth things over? Reasoning is what decides if it's a gimmick. Biden announced well in advance his choice would be a black woman, but he didn't know who. He was obviously pandering to a distinct crowd. That's what made it a gimmick. Is Trump doing the same? TBD.

I'm not entirely convinced this isn't a gimmick by Trump. He announced he'd choose a woman. Is he doing that because he actually believes a woman is the best choice, or is he trying to smooth things over? Reasoning is what decides if it's a gimmick. Biden announced well in advance his choice would be a black woman, but he didn't know who. He was obviously pandering to a distinct crowd. That's what made it a gimmick. Is Trump doing the same? TBD.

A little help.

 

[0nelilreb]

Was he saying that he has the votes for a hearing, or for a confirmation?

GOP senators noncommittal on timing as Trump pushes for preelection Supreme Court vote — POLITICO

 

[0nelilreb]

Neither side can claim the moral high ground..... both sides are hypocrites and don’t care anything about the American people.

There’s No moral high ground anymore in politics they’ve all sold their souls for power .

 

[volbeast33]

There’s No moral high ground anymore in politics they’ve all sold their souls for power .

Yes.... it’s why it amazes me why some people get so emotional over the party they support.

 

[zeppelin128]

GOP senators noncommittal on timing as Trump pushes for preelection Supreme Court vote — POLITICO

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Just like I said.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

When you are ready to unwind after work, one of my favorites is Reds (the one with Bruce Willis). I keep telling my wife I'm ready to watch that series again. Mary Louise Parker steals the show with her expressions.

Ask lilreb how many times I've watched those 2 movies. John malcovich " I've been softening him up, oh just some pcp and spiders"

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Not from my experience.... it usually means you got your ass whipped. Unless the get sucker punched.... you typically know when you’re going to have to defend yourself ..... and the best defense is a good offense. Never ..... ever.... let them hit you first..... kick a man when he’s down and never give a sucker an even break. Trust me

Is this where I throw in hair pulling is for sissies?

 

[Orange_Crush]

Yes.... it’s why it amazes me why some people get so emotional over the party they support.

Why support a party?

 

[Orange_Crush]

GOP senators noncommittal on timing as Trump pushes for preelection Supreme Court vote — POLITICO

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Thanks.

 

[Sea Ray]

You know what would be great? If justices were picked for their actual record and not their politics. Wishful thinking.

Trump's nominees have been picked for their judicial record of being a strict constructionist Constitutionally.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

No question. I'll go with the higher character....Harris.

Snoop dawg disagrees.

 

[Sea Ray]

We need to stop allowing justices to serve in their 80’s.

Why stop SCOTUS justices from serving in their 80s and allow a President to do the same? If we're going to set age limits, let's start with the President. Biden may very well give this idea a valid push if he wins and declines like I think he will

 

[volbeast33]

Why support a party?

I agree.... that’s why I made the choice to be an independent..... guy at the DMV looked at me like I was crazy lol

 

[Sea Ray]

Almost all the millennials.
The bridges were burned by the nomination, election, and continued support of a horrendously despicable human as POTUS.

If you need legal representation in court do you want a nice guy or do want a horse's a$$ to represent you? OJ Simpson chose the latter and walked because of it.

In politics, who do you want going up against guys like Putin or Kim Jong-un? Personally I want the SOB on my side. I don't want Mother Teresa.

 

[volbeast33]

Why stop SCOTUS justices from serving in their 80s and allow a President to do the same? If we're going to set age limits, let's start with the President. Biden may very well give this idea a valid push if he wins and declines like I think he will

I’m on board with age limits for all politicians.... I work with dementia patients and it’s amazing how they are able to fake their cognitive decline.

 

[utvolpj]

In politics, who do you want going up against guys like Putin or Kim Jong-un? Personally I want the SOB on my side. I don't want Mother Teresa.

You don't want the guy who becomes their friends and writes them love letters?

 

[zeppelin128]

Idiot Ted Cruz blames Nancy Pelosi for lack of a vote? I'm sure the Zodiac expects free reign, but that ain't how it works.

 

[hog88]

The vote is happening. Mitch would never float it unless he had the votes. With that said, the GOP is basically burning every bridge they have for it with Millennials.

Come on Zep, you usually don't play the chicken little part. The fact is 90% of millennials DGAS and as they get older the more conservative they become.

 

[0nelilreb]

I’m on board with age limits for all politicians.... I work with dementia patients and it’s amazing how they are able to fake their cognitive decline.

That’s on their own , imagine having a whole support team helping with that endeavor.

 

[volfanhill]

Yes. If the Senate Republicans had just followed the normal Senate confirmation process, and held hearings and then brought the Garland nomination to a vote and voted him down? Then Democrats would have nothing to complain about. As it stands now, the Republican hypocrisy makes it impossible to ignore. They should have given Garland hearings and then a vote.

But your showing the exact same hypocrisy. If it was wrong before it’s wrong now. You just want to play the “it’s not fair game.” Well Mitch decides to stop playing fair after Dems started screwing with previously help judicial nomination procedures. Not just once either. Shouldn’t have poked the bear. And I am not pro what Mitch has done. But I saw it coming a mile away.

 

[zeppelin128]

Come on Zep, you usually don't play the chicken little part. The fact is 90% of millennials DGAS and as they get older the more conservative they become.

Yep, keep thinking that. This will play badly with Millennials, and don't get me started on Gen Z. Mitch will get his nominee, but he is destroying every road with us and them in the process.

 

[MWR]

Tastes great, or less filling?

 

[MontyPython]

Update on breakdown of Senators who may vote against a Trump appointee, based on comments that I'm aware of since:

Opposed to confirmation:

Collins (ME)
Murkowski (AK)


No public declaration yet, but possibly opposed to confirmation:

Romney (UT)
Rand (KY) (possibly - wildcard)
Sasse (NE) possibly - but unlikely)


Publicly supported confirmation:

Alexander (TN) (retiring)
Gardner (CO) (Will lose badly in re-election)


The GOP Hypocrites that have publicly supported confirmation:

Grassley (IA) “It only makes sense that we defer to the American people who will elect a new president to select the next Supreme Court justice," Grassley said. (2016)

Graham (SC) “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election,″ Graham said in 2018 at an event hosted by The Atlantic magazine. Reminded that he was speaking on the record, Graham said: “Yeah. Hold the tape.″ (2018)

McConnell (KY) "“I can now confidently say the view shared by virtually everybody in my conference, is that the nomination should be made by the president the people elect in the election that’s underway right now,” McConnell told reporters following Senate Republicans’ first closed-door meeting after Scalia’s death. “I believe the overwhelming view of the Republican Conference in the Senate is that this nomination should not be filled, this vacancy should not be filled by this lame duck president…The American people are perfectly capable of having their say on this issue, so let’s give them a voice. Let’s let the American people decide. The Senate will appropriately revisit the matter when it considers the qualifications of the nominee the next president nominates, whoever that might be.” (2016)

Cruz (TX) "I proudly stand with my Republican colleagues in our shared belief -- our advice and consent -- that we should not vote on any nominee until the next president is sworn into office." (2016)

Bottom line is the up/down vote right now is 51-49 in favor of GOP (assuming all Dems and Inds vote to oppose).

Tie breaker is broken by Pence, so 2 more Senators must flip to stop nomination process. Not looking good for Dems.

While I'm SMH and the GOP, it's no surprise. The good news is these events will only bring out droves of blue in 42 days. Buh bye, Donald.

 

[hog88]

Yep, keep thinking that. This will play badly with Millennials, and don't get me started on Gen Z. Mitch will get his nominee, but he is destroying every road with us and them in the process.

Gen Z gives even a less of a ****, sure they like to post on their apps and feel like part of the crowd but in the end they really don't care as long as they get likes on their instagram. My kids are milleneals and I haven't heard 1 word about RGB from them.