Justin Hunter and the morality behind post-injury play

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Just some off-season discussion, but all the talk about this receiving corp has got me thinking about some of our more recent players, including Hunter.

I think most would agree 2010-2011 Hunter was a different player than "post-ACL" 2012 Hunter. Hunter still had a great year in 2012, but before he went down it seemed like he was shaping up to be one of the best receivers in UT history. He was fast, tall, athletic, and would sacrifice himself to make the catch. The truth is pre-injury Hunter would go through a defender or over a defender to make the catch, especially if it was for 6. 2012 Hunter seemed to spend a great portion of his year avoiding contact. Often times he would catch the ball and go down when he could have picked up 10 more, and I'm pretty sure at least once a game he would step backwards after the catch to avoid contact instead of just diving forward. Don't get me wrong, I was a huge Hunter fan, but it's hard to deny what we all saw in 2012.

This brings me to the morality issue. Granted, gun-shyness is a real thing. I have no doubt he was scared of landing wrong or taking a bad hit, but I think it's also safe to assume he had his pro career in mind. So my question is, is it wrong to play "softer" to try to avoid injury if your pro career is right around the corner?

At first glance the answer would seem to be "yes", but then again, a player like Hunter has probably had pro football on his mind ever since he was told he has the potential to get there. Kids all the time are told "don't base your decisions in school around the assumption you can make it in the pros" but let's be honest, they still do. So how many of us would sacrifice our future career for the good of Tennessee football? I love Tennessee, but I sure wouldn't. On the other hand the argument can be made that UT was essentially "paying" him (via scholarship) to come play. My wife and I will be paying for the rest of our lives on her student loans from UT, meanwhile Hunter was going for free, and UT was letting him go for free under the assumption that he would give his all to help advance the football program. From that perspective, playing soft to avoid injury is essentially not holding up your end of the deal.

Anyways like I said, just some offseason discussion, but is it morally wrong to play soft after injury to assure a lucrative career in the pros, or is it justifiable?
 
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Depth fixes this problem, if there is enough talent behind that player then he can't sandbag. But it seems we see this a lot these days, I thought the same thing of Clowney last season. No, I do not like it but who am I to judge?
 
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Anybody that says they wouldn't protect themselves within reason with a potential 7 figure payday at risk is full of crap and being cavalier about other people's health and money.

In Hunter's case though, I think the question makes a big assumption about where he was in his recovery. Despite what Adrian Peterson pulled off, it's pretty standard for it to take 18-24 months to get 100% back both mentally and physically from an ACL tear. Hunter was back on the field getting criticized for avoiding contact in about 11 months.
 
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Morality is the wrong word to use here. Playing to avoid contact is not a question of Justin Hunter's morals lol.
 
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Anybody that says they wouldn't protect themselves within reason with a potential 7 figure payday at risk is full of crap and being cavalier about other people's health and money.

This.

It's easy to spout off about going all out from the stands and on a messageboard.
 
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Anybody that says they wouldn't protect themselves within reason with a potential 7 figure payday at risk is full of crap.

In Hunter's case though, I think the question makes a big assumption about where he was in his recovery. Despite what Adrian Peterson pulled off, it's pretty standard for it to take 18-24 months to get 100% back both mentally and physically from an ACL tear. Hunter was back on the field getting criticized for avoiding contact in about 11 months.

That was my thought as well. Maggitt redshirted the entire next year after an ACL so it's hard to say how much we were seeing was Hunter being uncertain and how much was him trying not to get hurt. The line would be blurry even in his head.

The general question though is interesting. I even wonder if you really reduce the chance of injury by playing not to get hurt. Sometimes trying to avoid something ends up causing it to happen.
 
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Morality is the wrong word to use here. Playing to avoid contact is not a question of Justin Hunter's morals lol.

Yes it is. Is it morally right to take scholarship money from your university, and in turn not put full effort into your play in order to benefit yourself in your future?
 
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Only 11 months out of major surgery, NFL in the near future, and a kid to look after at home. I can see his reasons. Clowney on the other hand......
 
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Easy to post from where you are, huh?

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lets do this guys while we sit and twiddle our thumbs until august. lets all go back just to 1980 and pick the best offence and defence from the teams from 1980 until now. put on your thinking caps. oh that's 1 player per position offence defence special teams
 
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lets do this guys while we sit and twiddle our thumbs until august. lets all go back just to 1980 and pick the best offence and defence from the teams from 1980 until now. put on your thinking caps. oh that's 1 player per position offence defence special teams


Will do as soon as you explain what "offence" and "defence" are.......I'm not familiar with those terms.
 
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lets do this guys while we sit and twiddle our thumbs until august. lets all go back just to 1980 and pick the best offence and defence from the teams from 1980 until now. put on your thinking caps. oh that's 1 player per position offence defence special teams

wut?
 
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Each individual has to decide what is best for them in any situation. As long as it harms no one else, it is moral.
 

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