Justin Worley the last 2 games

#76
#76
We are a starting QB shy of being a really scary team to play. We have improved everywhere except in QB play. 19-34 is not starter quality in the SEC and those numbers run pretty much the same every game. Not throwing interceptions is not a sign of QB progress, it just means that he is too inaccurate to hit the other team too. He threw into some double coverage against SC that might cost him this week if he does the same.
 
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The few runs he's made were surprisingly very good. I just wish he'd do that a little more often. I was very negative on Worley early on. I've already admitted to eating some crow and I am happy he keeps serving up fresh portions each game.

He did have me a little sketched out in the 3rd quarter though.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
unless he learns when to keep the ball on the option and stops the occasional wtf throws,i don't think he will start his senior year. right now he is a tough, game manager and that is about it.
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Agreed 100%. He's tough and shows a lot of heart but he is just a game manager and not much of a threat to do much.

Still don't really understand the theory of holding on to redshirts for two freshmen.
 
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Freak said:
From the what I've seen Worley's accuracy issues result from throwing off of his back foot or off balance. He also has young receivers who aren't always where they are supposed to be.

And while Worley's arm is not the strongest I've ever seen, I certainly wouldn't classify it as below average.
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I am still not sure if some throws are the WR running a sloppy pattern or Worley just being inaccurate. I have a feeling it is a little bit of both.

I have a feeling that he is our QB next year so I hope they work on that a lot in the offseason.
 
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phowell23 said:
65 pass attempts. 0 interceptions.

I hope he's our starter for the rest of the season.

I take back everything I said about him earlier in the season. It's like a Crompton turn around.
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Except that JC had G Jones, D Moore, Stocker, and Hancock as experienced WR's to work with. JC was a head case. As far as I know, no one has ever suggested anything of the sort about Worley. Some have questioned his physical ability but not really his head.
 
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KingtUT said:
Let me reword my opinion to clear it up.

It wouldn't have been a nail biter if we had not had 4 or 5 drops plus a misplay/miscall by Blanc and if the receivers weren't so green. Worley AND the WR's need to improve a lot before he will be considered an above average qb.

If they do... then Worley will be considered well above average before leaving UT.
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Let me re-word your post to clear it up....
 
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No. You replied to this post by KingtUT:

"It would be nice but I don't see it happening. His passing ability is below average and his running ability is below average. All 3 of the other qb' have a higher upside than Worley IMO. Worley had experience and that's the only reason he's playing this year, next year all the back ups will have a better grasp of the system."

You highlighted "His passing ability is below average and his running ability is below average," and said:
"Would like to see any stats you could provide to back that statement up with something more than just your negative opinion of Worley."

I gave you stats to back up the statement.

IBlvNTmWrk said:
No they're not, but thanks for the information. My reply was to a post stating that the SC game was won in spite of Worley, so I was asking for "game" statistics as those are the ones that were relevant to his post.

So you tell me... which QB do you think had a more positive impact for their team?


PASSING___Cmp-Att-Int___Yds___TD___Long___Sack
Worley, J._____19-34-0_____179____1______48_____1
Shaw, C.______7-21-1_____161____1______76_____4
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papatomany said:
No. You replied to this post by KingtUT:

"It would be nice but I don't see it happening. His passing ability is below average and his running ability is below average. All 3 of the other qb' have a higher upside than Worley IMO. Worley had experience and that's the only reason he's playing this year, next year all the back ups will have a better grasp of the system."

You highlighted "His passing ability is below average and his running ability is below average," and said:
"Would like to see any stats you could provide to back that statement up with something more than just your negative opinion of Worley."

I gave you stats to back up the statement.
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Correct... and if you want to check further you'll notice that post was part of a prior conversation including these posts.

KingtUT said:
Worley still has a lot of improving to do. The win had little to do with Worley's performance. Without drastic improvement, I don't see him as our qb next year. Wouldn't mind if he is but he has a lot to work on. We won in spite of Worley IMO.
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appvol said:
Worley needs be the the QB next year to.Hopefully he doesn't get hurt this year and UT gets to RS the 2 FR. Worley starts next year and the team improves more.Then 1 of the 2 FR will be a RS SO. and have 3 years in Coach Jones system and should be good to go.
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papatomany said:
QB rating of 119.3, in the SEC 13th out of 14 who have averaged at least 15 att per game. He's 11th in completion % on the same list and 13th in yards per completion. (13th in yards per attempt, which mathematically combines completion percentage with yards per completion.) His rating in the last two games, when he "turned the corner", is 116.46. His rating against ranked opponents is 108.85 which is 9th in the conference. This is mediocrity.

Those are the stats you asked for.

The last throw to North was great; North's catch was even better. He had two other catchable long balls. North made another great catch on one of them; Blanc dropped the other, but had to adjust to a poor throw. (Just goes along with the theory that you just have to get pretty close on most long balls.) He stood in well. He made one very good run.

There is no doubt in my mind that if either of the freshmen had been handed the reins from day one, they would have done at least what Worley has done, and more than likely much more. This is, of course, just my opinion.
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That was a good throw to Blanc. He fumble fingered it.
 
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what what said:
Worley has been tough. He answered the challenge and I respect the hell out of him for it. A few weeks ago everybody doubted him. He bounced back and is proving to be a leader. I love seeing stuff like this.
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For the record I never doubted him. Even started a thread "Worleys getting better" but everyone thought I was full of you know what. Glad to see everyone's noticing what I was.
 
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#88
Worley has been improving. If he keeps going this way he may yet be a very good QB. At present I would call him serviceable. Some of his problems are on the WR and their inexperience. I just hope facing Bama's D this week doesn't rattle him to bad. At least he does not seem to shut down like Bray did at times. You have to wonder what Bray would have been like as a player if CBJ had been his coach.
 
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davethevol said:
Just think, he's still getting comfortable. This is not the top of offense he's used to. If he stays and gives the guys behind him time to develop, it will do wonders for us.
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Exactly he was a shotgun quarterback in h.s., he is showing improvement every week now. Though there maybe a set back this week.
 
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That third and long pass to North in the USCe game was accurate enough for North to catch it with his right hand held behind his back. The ball hit North on top of his left shoulder. Not too shabby.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Correct... and if you want to check further you'll notice that post was part of a prior conversation including these posts.
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Even as part of an ongoing discussion, if you highlight something and say you want stats "to back up that statement" then you seem to be asking for stats "to back up that statement".

As for the rest of the conversation (which I had intentionally stayed out of til now), you seem to be saying that if our QB play is slightly less mediocre than their QB play, then it can't be said that we won in spite of our QB's mediocre play. I strongly disagree. With only slightly better QB play we win going away.
 
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phowell23 said:
65 pass attempts. 0 interceptions.

I hope he's our starter for the rest of the season.

I take back everything I said about him earlier in the season. It's like a Crompton turn around.
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I've been saying this all season! The guy doesn't make dumb decisions throwing the ball, he's just not very accurate. Aside from the USA game he's played about as smart and as well as you could hope.
 
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Volhoops said:
We are a starting QB shy of being a really scary team to play. We have improved everywhere except in QB play. 19-34 is not starter quality in the SEC and those numbers run pretty much the same every game. Not throwing interceptions is not a sign of QB progress, it just means that he is too inaccurate to hit the other team too. He threw into some double coverage against SC that might cost him this week if he does the same.
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You don't think Worley has improved? Are you serious? He's improved and so has the WR Corps. He ain't winning the heisman trophy anytime soon but he sure as hell has improved. That throw to North was thrown perfectly between the corner and safety and literally hit North on the left shoulder.

I would also argue that the other long gainer to North was a very good throw, albeit a little late. Threw it over the single safety (not double coverage) for North to go get, which he did.
 
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papatomany said:
He did fumble finger it; but the throw was way late and way behind. The play call was beautiful, and Blanc was so open a blind monkey could have made the throw.
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It was late but Blanc and any "blind monkey" should have caught it for a huge gain and a first and goal.
 
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NickZ4UT said:
I've been saying this all season! The guy doesn't make dumb decisions throwing the ball, he's just not very accurate. Aside from the USA game he's played about as smart and as well as you could hope.
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Agree with everything. I'll add that I do think he is accurate when he's on time and steps into his throws. He needs to continue to work on recognizing the throws he needs to make quicker and throwing open his receivers. He needs reps, reps and more reps with his receivers to correct this
 
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KingtUT said:
No doubt Worley made some plays. He just misses more plays than he makes IMO.
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Your opinion is not supported by the facts.

In the SC game he was 19 of 34 with 1 TD and 0 int - that's 55.9%. If he's missing more than he makes, then that adds up to something more than 111.8%.....can only go to 100%.

Surely you don't contend that the 45.1% of passes that weren't completed were all on Worley? I can think of at least 3 throws off the top of my head that were dropped by the receivers. There were also several throws where he was under heavy pressure and had to chunk it out of bounds to avoid a sack.

Payton's NFL completion rate is 65.4% so considering this is Worley's first year and he has been working with inexperienced WR's, he's not nearly as bad as your perception.
 
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#99
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Worley has improved but he takes to long to throw the ball--that is obvious. He is consistently late getting rid of the ball, partly because he's got an awkward wind-up before he releases the ball. We should be throwing mostly short passes.
 
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