Kavanaugh Confirmation

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luthervol said:
From your source treefrog.
The Hebrew verb רצח‬ (r-ṣ-ḥ, also transliterated retzach, ratzákh, ratsakh etc.) is the word in the original text that is translated as "murder" or "kill", but it has a wider range of meanings, generally describing destructive activity, including meanings "to break, to dash to pieces" as well as "to slay, kill, murder".
According to the Priestly Code of the Book of Numbers, killing anyone outside the context of war with a weapon, or in unarmed combat, is considered retzach, but if the killing is accidental, the accused must not leave the city, or he will be considered guilty of intentional murder. The Bible never uses the word retzach in conjunction with war.
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You should study up. I'm sure you think a wiki quote makes you an expert on Christian ethics. I look very forward to the lessons we'll get under your care.
 
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T-TownVol said:
He keeps going back to the "lost his cool" argument. This is not a trial and K was not sitting on the bench. Ignorant talking point IMO.
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First time I've brought it up. I didn't say his demeanor should disqualify him from SCOTUS, just that it strained his credibility in the hearing Thursday. I'm sure he conducts himself in a more professional manner in his court. I just think he should have done the same Thursday.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
First time I've brought it up. I didn't say his demeanor should disqualify him from SCOTUS, just that it strained his credibility in the hearing Thursday. I'm sure he conducts himself in a more professional manner in his court. I just think he should have done the same Thursday.
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I think he should have turned the rage up higher in his opening statement. Then should have been at like a 3 for the questioning portion. Other than DiFi, he should have drop kicked her..
 
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zeppelin128 said:
First time I've brought it up. I didn't say his demeanor should disqualify him from SCOTUS, just that it strained his credibility in the hearing Thursday. I'm sure he conducts himself in a more professional manner in his court. I just think he should have done the same Thursday.
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Disagree, it was time to defend himself and family. (Many on your side have thrown out that talking point, if this was your first time, I retract)
 
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luthervol said:
From your source treefrog.
The Hebrew verb רצח‬ (r-ṣ-ḥ, also transliterated retzach, ratzákh, ratsakh etc.) is the word in the original text that is translated as "murder" or "kill", but it has a wider range of meanings, generally describing destructive activity, including meanings "to break, to dash to pieces" as well as "to slay, kill, murder".
According to the Priestly Code of the Book of Numbers, killing anyone outside the context of war with a weapon, or in unarmed combat, is considered retzach, but if the killing is accidental, the accused must not leave the city, or he will be considered guilty of intentional murder. The Bible never uses the word retzach in conjunction with war.
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Here's the Strong's definition:

רָצַח
râtsach
raw-tsakh'
A primitive root; properly to dash in pieces, that is, kill (a human being), especially to murder: - put to death, kill, (man-) slay (-er), murder (-er).


It's pretty clear that in the context of Exodous 20:13, murder is the primary definition of the word. Of course, you want to twist the Scriptures to fit your own narrative, so it doesn't matter what I say.
 
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Weezer said:
If Trump were assassinated, would the left celebrate?

Note to Mr.FBI, NSA, or whichever government agency may be monitoring, I am NOT advocating this, just simply asking a question. Please do not show up at my door.
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Many, including the Leftist news and entertainment medias, would celebrate in private, and some Leftist Fascists would openly celebrate the MURDER of the U.S. president.
 
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luthervol said:
From your source treefrog.
The Hebrew verb רצח‬ (r-ṣ-ḥ, also transliterated retzach, ratzákh, ratsakh etc.) is the word in the original text that is translated as "murder" or "kill", but it has a wider range of meanings, generally describing destructive activity, including meanings "to break, to dash to pieces" as well as "to slay, kill, murder".
According to the Priestly Code of the Book of Numbers, killing anyone outside the context of war with a weapon, or in unarmed combat, is considered retzach, but if the killing is accidental, the accused must not leave the city, or he will be considered guilty of intentional murder. The Bible never uses the word retzach in conjunction with war.
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Oh no you don’t you idiot moonbat. The Jewish doctrine is very clear in referncing the shedding of innocent blood. And the scriptures all reference murder.

482. Don't commit murder (Exodus 20:13)
483. Don't accept ransom for life of the murderer (Numbers 35:31)
484. Exile an accidental murderer (Numbers 35:25)
485. Don't accept ransom from him (Numbers 35:32)
486. Don't kill the murderer before trying him (Numbers 35:12)
487. Save the pursued at the cost of the life of the pursuer (Deuteronomy 25:12)
488. Don't show pity for the pursuer (Numbers 35:12)
489. Don't stand idly by when you can save a life (Leviticus 19:16)
490. Set aside cities of refuge for those who commit accidental homicide (Deuteronomy 19:3)
491. Break the neck of the calf by the river (in ritual following unsolved murder) (Deuteronomy 21:4)
492. Don't till by that river or sow there (Deuteronomy 21:4)
493. Don't cause loss of human life (through negligence) (Deuteronomy 22:8)
494. Build a parapet (in roof of house) (Deuteronomy 22:8)
495. Don't mislead with advice which is a stumbling block (Leviticus 19:14)
496. Help a man remove the load from his beast which can no longer carry it (Exodus 23:5)
497. Help him load his beast (Deuteronomy 22:4)
498. Don't leave him in a state of confusion and go on your way (Deuteronomy 22:4)
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Keep up the back stroke!

These all came the same wiki that your non sequitor did.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I don't think either Ford or Kavanaugh were credible witnesses. There are serious discrepancies in her story, and the timing is suspect to say the least. And his demeanor during the hearing Thursday didn't do him any favors. He would have thrown out someone in his court that conducted themselves in such a terrible manner.
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Have someone go after you and your family like he had. Let's see how long you're going to show restraint against your attackers.
 
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luthervol said:
lol..........ND provide the link. Don't slander his character.
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Excuse me?

I'll ask you a couple of questions. I look very forward to your answers.

Why does scripture say that it is immoral to murder? Per the Bible, why is it moral to take human life when we are supposed to take human life?

Scriptural speaking, why is it immoral to lie, and given the reason for its immorality, is it understandable that we're not given any times that it's moral to do it?

You're doing awesome. I'm apparently struggling. You won't find these answers on Wikipedia. You'll need to do some honest, deep study. I'll await your responses. (Please give scriptural references to support your responses. Thanks.)
 
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Matt2496 said:
Here's the Strong's definition:

רָצַח
râtsach
raw-tsakh'
A primitive root; properly to dash in pieces, that is, kill (a human being), especially to murder: - put to death, kill, (man-) slay (-er), murder (-er).


It's pretty clear that in the context of Exodous 20:13, murder is the primary definition of the word. Of course, you want to twist the Scriptures to fit your own narrative, so it doesn't matter what I say.
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Hey, he's a scholar here. He chose to base our debate on a moral standard that he knows nothing about. He's playing Wikipedia catch-up now.
 
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happy-go_vol said:
I'll tell you what will happen. The FBI will investigate and there will be accusers coming out of the woodwork. There will be witnesses that will completely lie against Cavanaugh. They will do their best to smear this man's name
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You mean how it's already gone?
 
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zeppelin128 said:
First time I've brought it up. I didn't say his demeanor should disqualify him from SCOTUS, just that it strained his credibility in the hearing Thursday. I'm sure he conducts himself in a more professional manner in his court. I just think he should have done the same Thursday.
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He was treating the Democratic members of the committee with contempt.

As well he should with the way everything went down.

Nobody and I do mean nobody can blame the man for finally breaking and snapping back. Well, they can and look like a complete and utter partisan **** for doing so.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Have someone go after you and your family like he had. Let's see how long you're going to show restraint against your attackers.
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One can defend family and self without flying off the handle. It is just my opinion, but it is much more effective to be calm and cold during confrontation.
And he is up for a Scotus seat; it might not be fair, but the standards are higher than for you or me.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
One can defend family and self without flying off the handle. It is just my opinion, but it is much more effective to be calm and cold during confrontation.
And he is up for a Scotus seat; it might not be fair, but the standards are higher than for you or me.
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If you call his demeanor "flying off the handle," you'd have to invent new words for how I would behave if my wife and kids were threatened and my name drug through the mud with a farce charge after a lifetime of public service.

His rebuttal to the charges was EXACTLY what any sane individual would deem appropriate to the deliberate, calculated, damaging attack on his character.
 
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