Kellie Harper discussion/debate thread [merged]

I am not a KJH supporter at this point in her tenure, but I think there are a lot of disingenuous things in your post. She clearly IS a Division One coach, lol... I mean that's been her job for oh, 19 years 🙃 I also would disagree with saying she isn't respected by her players. They must love her (i.e. Rickea choosing to come back versus opting for the draft). Her record would probably viewed as a "good coach" at any other school ( other than Uconn, SC, Maryland, Louisville, Stanford), but that isn't going to cut it at TN. Good shouldn't cut it here. I agree she is horrible at coaching offense.
She is a D-1 coach but I am saying she shouldn’t be. Especially not at a Blueblood program which is the Tennessee Lady Vol job. Respected by her players, no way. I’ve seen players tune her out on the sideline.

Rickea choosing to come back….who wants to play in the WNBA, the pay sucks, the schedule sucks, who really cares and who is really watching. She’s probably making more playing for the Lady Vols than she can make in with WNBA. That reasoning doesn’t hold water.

Her record would be good at any other school…The Tennessee job is any other school…..any breathing competent coach can win 20 games a year at Tennessee (all be it with CH as coach that gets further in the mirror every year). The banners hanging from the ceiling will always get us enough good players to win 20 games a year. In the big scheme of things, there is only a handful of good teams that can win it all in the women’s game. Compared to 25 teams in the men’s game that could win it all.

All I am trying to say is CH isn’t good enough to coach at a program like Tennessee. She doesn’t demand respect from her players. Is terrible at in game decisions. Is terrible at coaching offense and defense. She is also TERRIBLE at recruiting. I think with all that said, that is every facet of the game. It’s not personal. She just isn’t good enough to be coaching the Lady Vol program.
 
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She is a D-1 coach but I am saying she shouldn’t be. Especially not at a Blueblood program which is the Tennessee Lady Vol job. Respected by her players, no way. I’ve seen players tune her out on the sideline.

Rickea choosing to come back….who wants to play in the WNBA, the pay sucks, the schedule sucks, who really cares and who is really watching. She’s probably making more playing for the Lady Vols than she can make in with WNBA. That reasoning doesn’t hold water.

Her record would be good at any other school…The Tennessee job is any other school…..any breathing competent coach can win 20 games a year at Tennessee (all be it with CH as coach that gets further in the mirror every year). The banners hanging from the ceiling will always get us enough good players to win 20 games a year. In the big scheme of things, there is only a handful of good teams that can win it all in the women’s game. Compared to 25 teams in the men’s game that could win it all.

All I am trying to say is CH isn’t good enough to coach at a program like Tennessee. She doesn’t demand respect from her players. Is terrible at in game decisions. Is terrible at coaching offense and defense. She is also TERRIBLE at recruiting. I think with all that said, that is every facet of the game. It’s not personal. She just isn’t good enough to be coaching the Lady Vol program.
I always thought she would be better than Holy but is not at least holy recruited better talent. We need to get away from the Pat tree
 
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Tennessee recruiting isn’t the issue.


Tennessee has three elite HS commitments.

Can’t seem to get over the hump this year in closing games.

The players seem to still be trying to find that on court chemistry that comes with building a system that fits the personnel.

Making the proper adjustments and counter decisions once the opponents start to take away the 1st or 2nd option.

2nd option? LOL
 
Man Oh Man Substitutions timeouts game adjustments turnovers athleticism I have lowered my bar can't except much

Only thing you got right is substitutions!

First off, I’m watching teams like Duke, SC, Stanford, Notre Dame, Oklahoma etc. and the LVs offense is still scoring with most even without a 20PPG superstar.

The issue is definitely predetermined substitutions. Jewel Spear hit two straight 3pt shots against Notre Dame to build a double digit lead and was subbed out in the 3rd qtr for a 3rd foul. Who is to say she would’ve picked up a 4th? Sometimes you have to the roll the dice and play to win.

The negaVols are pretty much done for once TN gets out of its own way.
 
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Only thing you got right is substitutions!

First off, I’m watching teams like Duke, SC, Stanford, Notre Dame, Oklahoma etc. and the LVs offense is still scoring with most even without a 20PPG superstar.

The issue is definitely predetermined substitutions. Jewel Spear hit two straight 3pt shots against Notre Dame to build a double digit lead and was subbed out in the 3rd qtr for a 3rd foul. Who is to say she would’ve picked up a 4th? Sometimes you have to the roll the dice and play to win.

The negaVols are pretty much done for once TN gets out of its own way.
well dont need a 20pt per game player to run a good offense and i hope we win today
 
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If Coach Kellie can't return the LVs to their former elite staus, and I did not say she can't do this, then I make a HC suggestion for Shawn Poppie at UTC. I believe he is a future Wes Moore. Small sample size to be sure.
 
I just wonder if they give Harper till end of season to fix this or if there is any chance they consider canning her mid season
 
Y’all still think Kellie deserves grace? No one is coming here as long as she’s the coach because she’s bad at it.
 

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