Kellie Harper discussion/debate thread [merged]

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turbovol said:
Aren't you the cat who was trying to tell everyone that Wells and Spears were the two greatest players ever, and were ready to carry
the Vols back to the TOP? Remind us how many of her 5 threes Wells made last night.....
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I’ve literally never said that. They are clearly Uber talented… what u mean. Destinee will find it. Something is up bc you aren’t a 42% career shooter from 3 to nearly 0 that’s not how that works
 
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knoxvol52 said:
I think RJ puts a huge Band Aid on the issues the team will have going forward...
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We are still a top 25 team without her. We can be a top 8 with her.

If the girls were playing like this at FL St we would won by 30. Personally I think it’s good RJ is out so our team can grow. We need positivity tho.

I swear some of y’all want us to be bad. “Fans”

Saying your peace is one thing I’ve let my qualms out but dam 🦫 y’all stay nagging
 
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VolFuture said:
We are still a top 25 team without her. We can be a top 8 with her.

If the girls were playing like this at FL St we would won by 30. Personally I think it’s good RJ is out so our team can grow. We need positivity tho.

I swear some of y’all want us to be bad. “Fans”

Saying your peace is one thing I’ve let my qualms out but dam 🦫 y’all stay nagging
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Opinion board ...I respect yours .......
 
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VolFuture said:
The difference is u think our team is bad and it clearly isn’t
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No, I think the girls are talented but aren’t being put in position to be successful. For instance, Sara is a 4/5… she CANNOT play the three successfully. But you know where Kellie likes to throw her??? Jill is a 6’5 4 she’s not a 5. Hence why she makes so many mistakes with her back to the basket. Use her face up game and let Karo/Sara be your 5 player when she’s on the court. I’m veryyyy clear about this team being talented. And very clear about Kellie not being able to get it done.
 
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knoxvol52 said:
I think RJ puts a huge Band Aid on the issues the team will have going forward...
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Absolutely true.

RJ's absence points up, for starters, our poor recruiting. Where is the young talent on this team? We essentially have none--no one
who is playing, in any case. To be sure, in this era of the transfer, younger players are getting squeezed out of playing time more than ever before; even so, we have very little young talent. Everyone who played last night is a junior, senior or 5th year. Where is the depth
at wing/forward? We don't have any, which is why we are playing 3 guards. We have Jackson (hurt) and Puckett, who has been playing relatively well, and that's it. When we give Puckett a rest, we have nobody legit at wing right now. We have two hybrid power forwards/centers in Hollingshead and Striplin.

We had a nice balance of scoring last night: 4 players in double figures plus Puckett with 8. That's a good sign and suggests some decent coaching. Even so, we continue to struggle with fundamentals--as we have for 20 years--and more particularly with offensive efficiency. We don't move and pass the ball well enough--that is why our assists totalsl are consistently too low and our turnovers are consistently too high. And that plays a role in shooting. It appears that we are playing better defensively this year compared to last year--but that wouldn't be saying a whole lot as we were bad defensively last year. We're average--at best--defensively. We had a meager 3 steals compared to 10 for Notre Dame. Notre Dame only had 7 turnovers--another indication of average defense as pressure/good defenses often causes turnovers. In the end Notre Dame was more fundamental than we were, which is usually leads to a loss.
 
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dapeak said:
No, I think the girls are talented but aren’t being put in position to be successful. For instance, Sara is a 4/5… she CANNOT play the three successfully. But you know where Kellie likes to throw her??? Jill is a 6’5 4 she’s not a 5. Hence why she makes so many mistakes with her back to the basket. Use her face up game and let Karo/Sara be your 5 player when she’s on the court. I’m veryyyy clear about this team being talented. And very clear about Kellie not being able to get it done.
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Fair fair can’t disagree
 
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VolFuture said:
We are still a top 25 team without her. We can be a top 8 with her.

If the girls were playing like this at FL St we would won by 30. Personally I think it’s good RJ is out so our team can grow. We need positivity tho.

I swear some of y’all want us to be bad. “Fans”

Saying your peace is one thing I’ve let my qualms out but dam 🦫 y’all stay nagging
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That’s rich coming from the person who is nagging more than anyone.
 
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turbovol said:
Where is the young talent on this team?
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After watching the games this week, this is well worth repeating. I've seen the future, and it ain't us. So much exciting young talent this year, Ju Ju, Hildago, Williams, Kitts, Watkins, Fulwiley, etc out there getting experience in big games. Meanwhile, our players with elig left after next year are Cooper, Strickland, E Darby, and Boyd coming in. Another guard in 26. Literally not one post or forward. Stone cold depressing.

We have our age old problems, too many t.o.s, tendency to lose poise, inconsistent player development. But IMO lack of elite hs recruiting is far worse than those pitfalls and by far KJH worse shortcoming. It all starts with getting the players. Those who say hs recruiting is a thing of the past and programs can live by portal alone, I just hope to hell you're right.
 
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glv98 said:
After watching the games this week, this is well worth repeating. I've seen the future, and it ain't us. So much exciting young talent this year, Ju Ju, Hildago, Williams, Kitts, Watkins, Fulwiley, etc out there getting experience in big games. Meanwhile, our players with elig left after next year are Cooper, Strickland, E Darby, and Boyd coming in. Another guard in 26. Literally not one post or forward. Stone cold depressing.

We have our age old problems, too many t.o.s, tendency to lose poise, inconsistent player development. But IMO lack of elite hs recruiting is far worse than those pitfalls and by far KJH worse shortcoming. It all starts with getting the players. Those who say hs recruiting is a thing of the past and programs can live by portal alone, I just hope to hell you're right.
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We could still get Blakes she is our last 2024 in the running to sign with us she will be in the late signing period. 2025 has to be big we have Nyla number 16 and we need to add about four top players with her. Post player? Yes were not looking very good for the future or even now in the present.
 
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glv98 said:
After watching the games this week, this is well worth repeating. I've seen the future, and it ain't us. So much exciting young talent this year, Ju Ju, Hildago, Williams, Kitts, Watkins, Fulwiley, etc out there getting experience in big games. Meanwhile, our players with elig left after next year are Cooper, Strickland, E Darby, and Boyd coming in. Another guard in 26. Literally not one post or forward. Stone cold depressing.

We have our age old problems, too many t.o.s, tendency to lose poise, inconsistent player development. But IMO lack of elite hs recruiting is far worse than those pitfalls and by far KJH worse shortcoming. It all starts with getting the players. Those who say hs recruiting is a thing of the past and programs can live by portal alone, I just hope to hell you're right.
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Agree, the failure over the years to connect with top high school recruits is showing up now and looking bleak. Fans can’t be surprised by this staff as we have pages of recruits going elsewhere. The program won’t survive on portal and portal alone in the long term or even short term as this team is made up primarily of portal kids.
 
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Darth_Vol said:
Yes, at home in her second season here. SC was rated around 2nd or 3rd at the time. Arguably Kellie's best regular season win at Tennessee, while she still had a mostly-Holly roster. The fact that so many fans here apparently can't even remember it should speak volumes....
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Hollys players and no portal at the time.
 
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Majors said:
Agree, the failure over the years to connect with top high school recruits is showing up now and looking bleak. Fans can’t be surprised by this staff as we have pages of recruits going elsewhere. The program won’t survive on portal and portal alone in the long term or even short term as this team is made up primarily of portal kids.
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I'm not discounting that the dismal hs recruiting is the result of not being able to gather enough upfront signing bonus money. But whatever the problem, the result is the result and the immediate future is beyond alarming, espec when you watch the great upcoming players other teams have.
 
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glv98 said:
I'm not discounting that the dismal hs recruiting is the result of not being able to gather enough upfront signing bonus money. But whatever the problem, the result is the result and the immediate future is beyond alarming, espec when you watch the great upcoming players other teams have.
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Have to replenish with impact freshman to develop year after year to sustain long term success. We probably set ourselves behind the pack a few more years with our lack of signees.
 
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