Kentucky Basketball, one question/comment.

#26
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Redlegs said:
Yeah, I know what you guys mean about Ford. The guy's only won everywhere he's coached. He learned from one of the best college coaches in the country in Rick Pitino. His resume is comical. Let's take a look:

While coaching Campbellsville University, he compiled a record of 67-31 and was the Mid South Conf Coach of the Year after finishing with a 28-3 record in 1998-99.

At Eastern Kentucky University, Ford rebuilt their basketball program from the ground up and won the 2005Ohio Valley Conference Championship on his way to leading the Colonels to the NCAA tournament.

He then went on to UMass where he coached the Minutemen to a 24-9 record in '06-'07. That was good enough for the fifth most wins in a season in school history and shared the Atlantic 10 Conference Championship with Xavier.

Now he's at Oklahoma State where he won 20 games in his first season as head coach.
Yep, that's a comical resume. :thumbsup:
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Have at him. We won't fight you for him.
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#27
#27
BigPapaVol said:
Have at him. We won't fight you for him.
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Bottom line is his resume is impressive at this stage of his coaching career. For anyone to say his consideration is "comical" is comical statement within itself.
 
#28
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RockyTopVol said:
There's only two reasons for the mention of Pelphrey and Ford.


1. They're both former players.

2. For some reason, UK fans seem to think only players from the state of KY "knows" what it means to be a Wildcat. Something about history, tradition, and pride. Ridiculous.
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To the best of my recollection, UK has never hired a basketball coach with Kentucky ties. Hall was an assistant under Rupp and Tubby under Pitino, but neither the Baron, nor Pitino, nor Sutton, nor Gillispie had any tie to the Bluegrass. They didn't live in the state, they didn't attend the school, and they certainly never dressed up in Wildcat Blue before being given a coaching job.

Why alma mater would matter now when it never has before is a mystery to me. When and if the job opens, the simple test should, and will, be whether the candidate is the best available to fill it. I feel confident in predicting that any sane person will quickly evaluate Ford and Pelphrey against that question, and determine the answer is "no."
 
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Redlegs said:
Yeah, I know what you guys mean about Ford. The guy's only won everywhere he's coached. He learned from one of the best college coaches in the country in Rick Pitino. His resume is comical. Let's take a look:

While coaching Campbellsville University, he compiled a record of 67-31 and was the Mid South Conf Coach of the Year after finishing with a 28-3 record in 1998-99.

At Eastern Kentucky University, Ford rebuilt their basketball program from the ground up and won the 2005Ohio Valley Conference Championship on his way to leading the Colonels to the NCAA tournament.

He then went on to UMass where he coached the Minutemen to a 24-9 record in '06-'07. That was good enough for the fifth most wins in a season in school history and shared the Atlantic 10 Conference Championship with Xavier.

Now he's at Oklahoma State where he won 20 games in his first season as head coach.

Yep, that's a comical resume. :thumbsup:
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You forgot to mention his memorable dramatic role in Blue Chips.
 
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#30
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Redlegs said:
Bottom line is his resume is impressive at this stage of his coaching career. For anyone to say his consideration is "comical" is comical statement within itself.
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Great point. I think UK should go after him.
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#32
#32
Redlegs said:
Yeah, I know what you guys mean about Ford. The guy's only won everywhere he's coached. He learned from one of the best college coaches in the country in Rick Pitino. His resume is comical. Let's take a look:

While coaching Campbellsville University, he compiled a record of 67-31 and was the Mid South Conf Coach of the Year after finishing with a 28-3 record in 1998-99.

At Eastern Kentucky University, Ford rebuilt their basketball program from the ground up and won the 2005Ohio Valley Conference Championship on his way to leading the Colonels to the NCAA tournament.

He then went on to UMass where he coached the Minutemen to a 24-9 record in '06-'07. That was good enough for the fifth most wins in a season in school history and shared the Atlantic 10 Conference Championship with Xavier.

Now he's at Oklahoma State where he won 20 games in his first season as head coach.

Yep, that's a comical resume. :thumbsup:
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Yeah, 61-80 in five years in the rugged OVC is awesome. I'll donate $1,000 a year to UK's version of the VASF if they'll hire Travis Ford.
 
#33
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, 61-80 in five years in the rugged OVC is awesome. I'll donate $1,000 a year to UK's version of the VASF if they'll hire Travis Ford.
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You are forgetting that he took UMass to the NIT--twice. That's an accomplishment that puts him on par with names such as Barry Hinson and Stew Morrill.

EDIT: Actually, looking back on his total body of work, Travis' CV isn't nearly as impressive as Stew Morrill's. Maybe the Cats will consider him.
 
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#34
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DowntownVol said:
Look, I think Billy Clyde is an excellent coach, but even his most ardent supporters would have to admit that dropping 5 of your last 6 and going from a borderline lock to a bubble team to NIT-bound is not going to sit well with the powers that be in Lexington. Remember, Buzz got "assurances" that he would be granted one more year, and we remember how that turned out...
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I think your first sentence is incorrect. Billy G has proven to be a very stubborn coach who refuses to make adjustments. Perhaps he wasn't prepared for what he was getting into. Maybe he'll adjust to the attention. Who knows? All I know is that he seems to be very uncomfortable dealing with the pressure and the media. If that continues then perhaps coaching the most storied program in college basketball history isn't the gig for him.
 
#35
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cotton said:
To the best of my recollection, UK has never hired a basketball coach with Kentucky ties.
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Joe B Hall was born and raised in Cynthiana, KY. He graduated from the University of Kentucky. As for the other stuff, I think being an assistant gives you Kentucky ties. Both Joe B and Tubby experienced what it was like to be around the hype and the spotlight of Kentucky Basketball.
 
#36
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, 61-80 in five years in the rugged OVC is awesome. I'll donate $1,000 a year to UK's version of the VASF if they'll hire Travis Ford.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. He took a program from nothing and improved them to the point they made the NCAA.
 
#37
#37
Change is coming for Big Blue, if not this year then after next season. Especially if Meeks & Patterson leave. I saw a report that Patterson was staying, but that was before they qualified for the NIT. I think he is 50/50 and Meeks is gone for sure. Meeks' stock will never be higher than it is now, so he has to take advantage of that.
 
#38
#38
Redlegs said:
You have no idea what you're talking about. He took a program from nothing and improved them to the point they made the NCAA.
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You have sold me. Please please please hire Ford, not Pelphrey.
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#41
#41
Yeah, it's mayhem among the crazies who have nothing else to do. Me, I'm ready for Spring Football.

It will be an interesting offseason behind closed doors. Gillispie will need to take a class in PR or he will not last another season in Lex. Like I've said before- UK fans won't tolerate two things: Losing or having a jackass for a coach. Right now they have both of those things. Sucks to be CBCG right now.
 
#42
#42
Redlegs said:
I think your first sentence is incorrect. Billy G has proven to be a very stubborn coach who refuses to make adjustments. Perhaps he wasn't prepared for what he was getting into. Maybe he'll adjust to the attention. Who knows? All I know is that he seems to be very uncomfortable dealing with the pressure and the media. If that continues then perhaps coaching the most storied program in college basketball history isn't the gig for him.
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That's interesting, I didn't realize that UCLA had hired him.
 
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#44
Redlegs said:
You have no idea what you're talking about. He took a program from nothing and improved them to the point they made the NCAA.
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No, he probably knows more about basketball than everyone in your town combined.
 
#45
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Redlegs said:
Joe B Hall was born and raised in Cynthiana, KY. He graduated from the University of Kentucky. As for the other stuff, I think being an assistant gives you Kentucky ties. Both Joe B and Tubby experienced what it was like to be around the hype and the spotlight of Kentucky Basketball.
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My apologies. I had forgotten that Hall was a player. He is the exception that proves the rule.
I am still mystified how Pitino ever survived, having never experienced what it was like to be around the hype and spotlight of Kentucky Basketball.

You are trying to fit an ex-player into the role because you liked him as a player, not because he needs to be in the role. That is a mistake.

Lofton4Three said:
You have sold me. Please please please hire Ford, not Pelphrey.
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What possible difference could it make? Bring on Jeff Brassow or Cameron Mills, for that matter.
 
#46
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cotton said:
I am still mystified how Pitino ever survived, having never experienced what it was like to be around the hype and spotlight of Kentucky Basketball.
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Very interesting. UK was as low as it is now in 1989 after the Sutton debacle. Pitino's run at UK was lightning in a bottle, for sure, but I think that his ability to play the media endeared "that Yankee" to the fans. Cawood Ledford, UK's radio guy for 39 years, accepted him, and I think that fans followed his lead.
 
#47
#47
Brian McCat said:
Very interesting. UK was as low as it is now in 1989 after the Sutton debacle. Pitino's run at UK was lightning in a bottle, for sure, but I think that his ability to play the media endeared "that Yankee" to the fans. Cawood Ledford, UK's radio guy for 39 years, accepted him, and I think that fans followed his lead.
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I think his ability to win championships was the major factor. I was simply commenting on the fact that Pitino had no UK ties and did just fine.
 
#48
#48
UK fans have had enough of gillispie. They want calipari and will pay whatever it takes.
 
#49
#49
cotton said:
You are trying to fit an ex-player into the role because you liked him as a player, not because he needs to be in the role. That is a mistake.
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Don't misunderstand me, Cotton. I've never once said the Cats need to bring in Travis Ford. I'm simply making a case for Ford based on another post making the assumption his name only services because he played there. My point being is Ford has done a good job thus far in his coaching career and his accomplishments point that out. I want Kentucky to have the best coach they can have. If that's Billy G then so be it. I just can't help but wonder if BCG really gets what it means to coach at Kentucky soley based on some of his comments. I also don't like the way he makes himself look foolish to the media. It's one thing to have a beef with ESPN, it's another to be disrespectful to your own radio network.
 
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