killer did not listen to talk radio.

[lawgator1]

true. crazy people have been finding reasons to kill people long before glen beck and sara palin.

Therefore, anybody that kills anybody after the first murder ever by definition had no motivation?

Do you realize the illogic of what you just said?

 

[MG1968]

Therefore, anybody that kills anybody after the first murder ever by definition had no motivation?

Do you realize the illogic of what you just said?

speaking of illogic...

 

[hndog609]

Therefore, anybody that kills anybody after the first murder ever by definition had no motivation?

Do you realize the illogic of what you just said?

I took his statement in context with the others to mean crazy people will find whatever reasons they find. In fact why would you think his use of the term "reasons" would not be synonymous with your "motivations"? Surely you don't disagree that that there's no need whatsoever for a crazy person to be a fan of Beck or Palin to kill someone, right?

 

[lawgator1]

speaking of illogic...

His argument was stupid. His argument was that, because people had killed people before Beck and Palin, that means that it is not possible that Beck and Palin could cause this one.

That is dumb.

Now, I would not argue they caused it, as I say above. I would argue that their rhetoric (and really more the others') has contributed to a lash-out and to hell with it kind of sentiment for extremists.

Again, its not that the shooter agreed with their political views. Its that the right wing hate machine has changed the lexicon used to debate politics and turned into a giant mosh pit.

Beck, in particular, with his quasi-religious and doomsday overtones fits the loony bin crowd to a T.

 

[MG1968]

you make it sound as if that for the entire 8 years of W's Presidency, the left's rhetoric was calm and subdued.

it's amazing how selective your memory is

 

[tigervol9802]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/12/us/12loughner.html?_r=1

Obviously fits the mold of someone who would be influenced by right-wing hate.

 

[volinbham]

His argument was stupid. His argument was that, because people had killed people before Beck and Palin, that means that it is not possible that Beck and Palin could cause this one.

That is dumb.

Now, I would not argue they caused it, as I say above. I would argue that their rhetoric (and really more the others') has contributed to a lash-out and to hell with it kind of sentiment for extremists.

Again, its not that the shooter agreed with their political views. Its that the right wing hate machine has changed the lexicon used to debate politics and turned into a giant mosh pit.

Beck, in particular, with his quasi-religious and doomsday overtones fits the loony bin crowd to a T.

You have zero evidence:

1. that this sentiment exists for extremists
2. if such a sentiment exists it was caused by a "right wing hate machine"

but why let evidence stand in the way of a good old fashioned vitriolic rant?

 

[BigPapaVol]

:super epic facepalm: learn your history and get out your back door to a walkable community full of real world data, gorillas and high levels of happiness.

all sucks without income equality, which would spiral happiness meters to the sky.

 

[BeecherVol]

You have zero evidence:

1. that this sentiment exists for extremists
2. if such a sentiment exists it was caused by a "right wing hate machine"

but why let evidence stand in the way of a good old fashioned vitriolic rant?

That's what this has pretty much boiled down to.

When politicians are chalking up the "next time" (since this one hasn't stuck factually) that tells you pretty much all you need to know.

 

[droski]

His argument was stupid. His argument was that, because people had killed people before Beck and Palin, that means that it is not possible that Beck and Palin could cause this one.

is your actual argument that this guy was listening to beck and palin and was so enraged by them he decided to kill this woman. just trying to decide how stupid your argument really is.

 

[Oldvol75]

To be honest I don't understand your reaction here. It is all over the news that one group of people is blaming talk radio for this. The OP provides some evidence that such a claim is wrong.

It was all wrapped up by the left and put in a nice fitting box but now the box is starting to leak and it drives them crazy.
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[volinbham]

is your actual argument that this guy was listening to beck and palin and was so enraged by them he decided to kill this woman. just trying to decide how stupid your argument really is.

whether he listened or not is not the issue; right wing hate radio put "hate molecules" in the air. Dude breathed that "hate air" and it overwhelmed the "love air" coming from the left. The rest is history.

 

[tigervol9802]

whether he listened or not is not the issue; right wing hate radio put "hate molecules" in the air. Dude breathed that "hate air" and it overwhelmed the "love air" coming from the left. The rest is history.

Any truth to the rumor he was threatened by 800 lb gorillas as well?

 

[volinbham]

Any truth to the rumor he was threatened by 800 lb gorillas as well?

apparently they fart hate molecules

 

[BigPapaVol]

whether he listened or not is not the issue; right wing hate radio put "hate molecules" in the air. Dude breathed that "hate air" and it overwhelmed the "love air" coming from the left. The rest is history.

Don't leave out the enormous power of the income disparity.

 

[utvolpj]

apparently they fart hate molecules

good way to get the hater pink eye

 

[gsvol]

good way to get the hater pink eye

Or it could be pinko hate eye.

Jared Loughner = Bill Ayers [Reader Post] | Flopping Aces

Jared Loughner is the Bill Ayers of today. To make my point, I show the following common threads of behavior by both.

Attacks U.S. judges with intent to Kill. Check.

Burns and or desecrates the flag of The United States of America.(Jared burns, Bill stands on the U.S. flag) Check.

Calls America a terrorist nation. Check.

Hates domestic law enforcement personnel such as policemen. Check.

Anti-Semitic tendencies. Check.

Favorite book is the Communist manifesto. Check.

Belief that the U.S. government is illegitimate. Check.

Wanted to maim and Kill as many as possible Americans with indiscriminate attacks. Check.

Both are not registered Democrats or Republicans. Check.

Hated George W. Bush, Check.

There is one difference. One got away with murder and the other will not. Jared Loughner is a hard core far-left , America hating, Despicable piece of human garbage. Bill Ayers is the Darling of the left within the Democrat Party.