Kirby Smart Named UGA Coach?

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getyopopcornready said:
Because it's a fact that he has been nothing more than a d coordinator. Do you have anything that suggests otherwise?
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Nope. I took your comment as a suggestion that he won't be successful beyond the position of DC. If I misinterpreted your comment, then my bad. I do find it odd though, that if your only point was that he has never been a HC, you would feel the need to point out that he has never been a HC. We all knew that.
 
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gatorhater1509 said:
I agree with most all of you. Seems like a big risk given he's never been a head coach and he'll be coaching at a big time SEC school.

I could see why a school like UCF would try and hire him, assuming he'd go there to begin with. Time will tell but this is a bad hire by Georgia IMO.
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Richt had never been a HC when UGA hired him. He was a hotshot coordinator at the best program going in the county. He breathed new life into UGA and got them as close to 1980 as anyone had. Smart has the potential to do the same, we'll wait and see.
 
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About what I expected. UGA, like UT, never puts out the big money for a home run hire. This may be Ray Goff 2.0
 
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holdemvol said:
Nope. I took your comment as a suggestion that he won't be successful beyond the position of DC. If I misinterpreted your comment, then my bad. I do find it odd though, that if your only point was that he has never been a HC, you would feel the need to point out that he has never been a HC. We all knew that.
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My point is it's a big risk when he doesn't have any head coaching experience. Especially at a big time program that has gotten used to winning for a decade
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
You think Muschamp would leave Auburn this early in?
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I don't see what they gain by working together. They've both spent several years as a DC at a major program. Smart needs to find an offensive guy, not a high-profile DC to butt heads with over the defense.
 
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Honestly, I think UGA's first option fell through. They got played by someone. No way your fire Saint Richt abruptly just to hire Kirby Smart. Doesn't seem right
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Richt had never been a HC when UGA hired him. He was a hotshot coordinator at the best program going in the county. He breathed new life into UGA and got them as close to 1980 as anyone had. Smart has the potential to do the same, we'll wait and see.
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I don't disagree with any of this, but if you are a top 5 program you should be able to hire someone with prior HC success. Maybe the gamble pays off, but I am not sure it's a gamble that they needed to take.
 
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ukvols said:
I don't see what they gain by working together. They've both spent several years as a DC at a major program. Smart needs to find an offensive guy, not a high-profile DC to butt heads with over the defense.
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They're good buddies who have worked together at Valdosta State and LSU. I actually think it's an ideal scenario. Smart can be the CEO figurehead and hire a DC who he trusts, runs the same system and is pretty competent at his job and not meddle. Do the same on the offensive side of the ball and don't meddle. Dabo Swinney is a successful example of this. Dabo focuses on organization and recruiting and let's his assistants do their jobs.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Richt had never been a HC when UGA hired him. He was a hotshot coordinator at the best program going in the county. He breathed new life into UGA and got them as close to 1980 as anyone had. Smart has the potential to do the same, we'll wait and see.
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But Richt called the plays as FSU's offensive coordinator. Kirby Smart as Alabama's defensive coordinator didn't call the defensive plays Nick Saban did. I think Kirby Smart will be a flop like Nick Saban's assistants tend to be.
 
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getyopopcornready said:
My point is it's a big risk when he doesn't have any head coaching experience. Especially at a big time program that has gotten used to winning for a decade
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Completely agree. I was only questioning the "He is nothing more and nothing less than a DC" rhetoric.

I don't buy that you were just informing us that he has never eclipsed the title of DC. Again, you know that we are all well aware of that fact. I was simply and genuinely asking what evidence you have that he won't be a great HC.

At the end of the day we are both pleased with GA's hire, I think they could have done better. I also won't dismiss the dude as a failure until he shows it.

Go Vols.
 
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VolFootballnut said:
But Richt called the plays as FSU's offensive coordinator. Kirby Smart as Alabama's defensive coordinator didn't call the defensive plays Nick Saban did. I think Kirby Smart will be a flop like Nick Saban's assistants tend to be.
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Incorrect. Saban designed the scheme, but Kirby calls the plays. That's not to say that Saban doesn't have input, but Kirby has a long leash.
 
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holdemvol said:
Completely agree. I was only questioning the "He is nothing more and nothing less than a DC" rhetoric.

I don't buy that you were just informing us that he has never eclipsed the title of DC. Again, you know that we are all well aware of that fact. I was simply and genuinely asking what evidence you have that he won't be a great HC.

At the end of the day we are both pleased with GA's hire, I think they could have done better. I also won't dismiss the dude as a failure until he shows it.

Go Vols.
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I'm no fortune teller. I don't know how it will turn out. But I wouldn't have hired him given the situation. Is he a proven head coach? No. That is a fact. Why would you fire your coach of over a decade for him? That's a bad idea IMO
 
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getyopopcornready said:
I'm no fortune teller. I don't know how it will turn out. But I wouldn't have hired him given the situation. Is he a proven head coach? No. That is a fact. Why would you fire your coach of over a decade for him? That's a bad idea IMO
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I have never disagreed with any of this. My only beef with your first comment was the insinuation that Smart couldn't be successful beyond the rank of DC. AGAIN, if I mistook your comment then my bad...otherwise clarify and let's shut it down.
 
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VolFootballnut said:
But Richt called the plays as FSU's offensive coordinator. Kirby Smart as Alabama's defensive coordinator didn't call the defensive plays Nick Saban did. I think Kirby Smart will be a flop like Nick Saban's assistants tend to be.
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Who says he doesn't call the plays? Most just assume because he works for a HC with a defensive background that he just sits there. You don't make a guy the highest paid coordinator in the country just to be a puppet. You can find anyone to do that and for a lot less money.
 
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holdemvol said:
I have never disagreed with any of this. My only beef with your first comment was the insinuation that Smart couldn't be successful beyond the rank of DC. AGAIN, if I mistook your comment then my bad...otherwise clarify and let's shut it down.
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I don't believe he will be successful beyond a defensive coordinator because he has never been successful beyond a defensive coordinator. I just don't believe things until I see it. What's your beef with that? He will either be successful as a head coach or not. I'm rolling with NOT. Are you saying that he will be successful?
 
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getyopopcornready said:
I don't believe he will be successful beyond a defensive coordinator because he has never been successful beyond a defensive coordinator. I just don't believe things until I see it. What's your beef with that? He will either be successful as a head coach or not. I'm rolling with NOT. Are you saying that he will be successful?
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I have no clue if he will be successful or not, and neither do you. Your premise is if he has never done the job before, you don't believe he can. Newsflash: Saban and Meyer didn't begin their careers as head coaches.

Again, I think GA should have hired a proven HC, but his predecessor whom most of us think should have kept his job wasn't a proven HC either when he was hired.
 
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All we need is for South Carolina to hire Will Muschamp, and I will go streaking and do some cartwheels down my neighborhood street.
 
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