KKK statue in Alabama

[n_huffhines]

Che is a saint compared to him, unless Guevara was secretly profiting from selling off Cubans for slave labor.

Murder is worse than slavery, right? Che was a murderer. Che was Castro's executioner. He killed thousands of political prisoners.

 

[82_VOL_83]

He was a slave trader, murderer of black soldiers and a Grand Wizard of the KKK. How much more do I need to make that inference about Forrest? His image has been manipulated by southerners just like Reconstruction was years ago to make him the victim, or, at least, a sympathetic figure.

So you are a big proponent of the War of Northern Aggression and are FULLY aware that there were as many slaves in the north as in the south AFTER that war?

 

[n_huffhines]

So you are a big proponent of the War of Northern Aggression and are FULLY aware that there were as many slaves in the north as in the south AFTER that war?

Emancipation proclamation didn't initially free slaves in Union territory. It only mentioned confederate country.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Grizz, There was no father of the KKK, it just developed from the pre-war patrols and turned into something even worse. Forrest was not a Grand Wizard. Some leading citizens thought that the patrols were out of control and should be disciplined, so they went to him and offered the title of President, probably without any authority whatsoever, because he was fearless and respected. I've never seen information about what he did as titular President of the KKK, but he resigned shortly afterward and lived with a very different approach to race relations that was anathema to the Klan. The reality is that he did not live his life after the war as a racial supremacist or segregationist. My impression is he had no high-minded moral views on the subject. He was just an imminently practical man who did not believe in BS.

And vehemently despised by liberal progressives then and now.

 

[Toujours Pret]

So you are a big proponent of the War of Northern Aggression and are FULLY aware that there were as many slaves in the north as in the south AFTER that war?

C'mon, really? The war ended in April, the 13th Amendment had already been passed in January , and would be fully adopted in December.

Let's not pretend that there were slave labor reliant plantations UN Delaware for years after the war.

 

[Coach Grizz]

I'm not familiar with that term; perhaps you could tell us something about it. I know that bounty hunters existed to capture escaped slaves, but the patrols were not bounty hunters. State legislatures passed laws requiring white males to ride patrols in their areas, to be on the lookout for escaped slaves. Most people resented the imposition, but I suppose some got into it.

Slave patrols (called patrollers, pattyrollers or paddy rollers by the slaves) were organized groups of three to six white men who enforced discipline upon black slaves during the antebellum U.S. southern states. They policed the slaves on the plantations and hunted down fugitive slaves. Patrols used summary punishment against escapees, which included maiming or killing them. Beginning in 1704 in South Carolina, slave patrols were established and the idea spread throughout the southern states.

This is from Texas slave narratives
ippin' with a gun rod what he had with him. I guess de reason he was so mean was 'cause I hear pappy say he was a 'paddy-roller!' You know what dey was? Dey was white folks what go 'round watchin' slaves, an' if dey catch one off de place whar he belong an' he don't have no pass, dey lash him maybe fifty or a hundred licks. Sometimes a colored man on one plantation has a wife what is on a'nother planta