Knox County Passes Mandatory Indoor Face Masks

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DinkinFlicka said:
Just reciprocating the presumptuous nature of your idiocy.
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Not presumptuous. You stated the...if my boys "dont buy it" buffoonery.

You claimed I have contributed to the increase in cases. Which is quite a stupid claim when you have zero knowledge of what we do.
 
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GAVol said:
We’ve been over this repeatedly. The mask is supposed to stop your droplets from transmitting the virus to others. It’s almost completely effective at doing that. A mask is only about 50% effective at stopping incoming droplets since what is suspended in the air is typically a lot smaller.

P.S. Why are you yelling? Lol
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So your whole argument revolves around the “asymptomatic” unicorn. Because if you’re sick and coughing you need to keep your diseased ass home. I pressed my Dr on the point and he admitted there isn’t a great deal that can be done about the unicorn.

The SARS COV-2 particle is even about 8 times smaller than the mesh in the N95 mask. The particle by itself is just going to pass right thru. And if your phlegm is trapped in your mask normal respiration is going to eventually free those trapped particles because the mask mesh damn sure won’t.

In reading up on the mechanisms by which masks trap particles I learned about a mechanism which could give hope. Basically electrostatic attraction. Alas the SARS COV 2 particle is too large for that to be very effective.

The SARS COV 2 particle falls in the area even on the N95 mask that it is only about 50% effective.

Some of us like myself believe that basically short of a self contained rebreather and eye coverings there’s nothing you can do to block the virus. And all everybody is doing is reaching their own bargaining happy point on the seven step acceptance process. But that is as absolutely terrifying reality that no sane government would confess to. Thus... we have the great mask hope.

Either stay away from people (and where people have been... don’t leave that point out!) or go out in a space suit.
 
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Wireless1 said:
Day cares are more locked down than nursing homes and were before this “pandemic” but they are required to wear masks. Yet the children are not required.
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You’ve clearly not dealt with a nursing home the past couple of months.
 
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allvol123 said:
See my business provides an actual essential service.

Your business, doesnt. Yet still feels the need to be open during s pandemic. Quite clear who the person full of shtt is.
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As someone who was against shutting the country down, you are contradicting yourself just to be a petty, little bitch. Yes, we feel the need to stay open because the businesses shut down for good if we don't. That's how capitalism works, you rube.

We choose to stay open, but we're going to run it how we see fit. The past month has saved our asses and nearly a hundred jobs. We realize that this isn't going away, and while our business isn't deemed essential by people running ED Supplemental clinics like yours, it's essential to its employees and the general sanity of anyone whose bedtime is after 10.
 
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Coug said:
"The order goes into effect Friday and lasts until the board votes to rescind it. Violating it is classified as a Class C misdemeanor, punishable under state law by up to 30 days in jail and a $50 fine."

Knox County Board of Health passes face mask mandate
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So a bunch of unelected idiots can have you fined for not wearing their mask? Yeah I don’t think that’s possible
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
As someone who was against shutting the country down, you are contradicting yourself just to be a petty, little bitch. Yes, we feel the need to stay open because the businesses shut down for good if we don't. That's how capitalism works, you rube.

We choose to stay open, but we're going to run it how we see fit. The past month has saved our asses and nearly a hundred jobs. We realize that this isn't going away, and while our business isn't deemed essential by people running ED Supplemental clinics like yours, it's essential to its employees and the general sanity of anyone whose bedtime is after 10.
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Not contradicting myself at all. I dont care about masks and want you to be open, if that is what you want. Does this work better if I call you baby bitch?

You however, are all in on this damn foolishness, yet not so in as to believe a place meant for socializing, should remain closed...you know....during a pandemic.
 
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GAVol said:
You’ve clearly not dealt with a nursing home the past couple of months.
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Oh I have, and I follow their protocols for wearing a mask. I understand and agree no reason to risk giving someone pneumonia that grows into CoVid.
I’m just saying that the mandate excludes the one area that should have the strictest guidelines. I honestly think they are laughing at us
 
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allvol123 said:
Not contradicting myself at all. I dont care about masks and want you to be open, if that is what you want. Does this work better if I call you baby bitch?

You however, are all in on this damn foolishness, yet not so in as to believe a place meant for socializing, should remain closed...you know....during a pandemic.
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I'm all in when it comes to the notion that this is real. I also recognize that it's a part of life now. If I had it my way, I'd have a sign out front that says "No respiratory/cardiac illnesses, and no one over 70," but I can't legally do that. We have a business to run, and there aren't plans in place to keep us open amidst shortfalls anymore. The government loan was absolute dog **** and you wouldn't understand how difficult this year has been for bars and restaurants.

Frankly, I don't care if you get sick and kill your grandma because of it. I only care about my family, and accept that I've probably had it and have ceased seeing my older family members in person as a result. So, I work. We need revenue, so we're going to run it as best we can to balance maintaining a profit and not allowing people to be idiots.
 
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Wireless1 said:
Oh I have, and I follow their protocols for wearing a mask. I understand and agree no reason to risk giving someone pneumonia that grows into CoVid.
I’m just saying that the mandate excludes the one area that should have the strictest guidelines. I honestly think they are laughing at us
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We're not even allowed on the campus where my Mother-in-law lives. My wife hasn't seen her Mom in 3 1/2 months.

I don't know what the answer is for kids. I was talking to a couple of teachers the other day who are dreading the prospect of possibly having to police masks and social distance for 2nd graders.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
I'm all in when it comes to the notion that this is real. I also recognize that it's a part of life now. If I had it my way, I'd have a sign out front that says "No respiratory/cardiac illnesses, and no one over 70," but I can't legally do that. We have a business to run, and there aren't plans in place to keep us open amidst shortfalls anymore. The government loan was absolute dog **** and you wouldn't understand how difficult this year has been for bars and restaurants.

Frankly, I don't care if you get sick and kill your grandma because of it. I only care about my family, and accept that I've probably had it and have ceased seeing my older family members in person as a result. So, I work. We need revenue, so we're going to run it as best we can to balance maintaining a profit and not allowing people to be idiots.
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Welcome to the final steps in the seven step process of realizing there’s basically not a damn thing short of complete isolation that anybody can do to protect themselves young man.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Welcome to the final steps in the seven step process of realizing there’s basically not a damn thing short of complete isolation that anybody can do to protect themselves young man.
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It's not about protecting yourself. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. There are plenty if things you can do. You just refuse to believe that those things work. Lol.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
I'm all in when it comes to the notion that this is real. I also recognize that it's a part of life now. If I had it my way, I'd have a sign out front that says "No respiratory/cardiac illnesses, and no one over 70," but I can't legally do that. We have a business to run, and there aren't plans in place to keep us open amidst shortfalls anymore. The government loan was absolute dog **** and you wouldn't understand how difficult this year has been for bars and restaurants.

Frankly, I don't care if you get sick and kill your grandma because of it. I only care about my family, and accept that I've probably had it and have ceased seeing my older family members in person as a result. So, I work. We need revenue, so we're going to run it as best we can to balance maintaining a profit and not allowing people to be idiots.
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That's good. We need more people coming around to the realization that running a country completely around a virus, will produce an absolute disaster.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
It's what most venues of our nature will be doing. We had a meeting with a few other owners and directors about it earlier this week because we knew it was coming, given the spike in numbers due to businesses like yours.

If you think it's a poor plan of action, ask me how many emotional support chihuahuas have been in my venues and how many lawsuits we've had about my guys "not buying it."

Hint, it's the same answer.
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Lol people with the fake "therapy" animals who try to pass them off as service animals are literally the worst people in existence. They try that at the hospitals too, and we print out the copy of the ADA guidelines and hand it to them on their way being escorted out the door
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
It's not about protecting yourself. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. There are plenty if things you can do. You just refuse to believe that those things work. Lol.
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Correct. I refuse to believe they have any real effectiveness based on the particle size and people basically being dumbasses. And now you’re backsliding on the process 😥
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Correct. I refuse to believe they have any real effectiveness based on the particle size and people basically being dumbasses. And now you’re backsliding on the process 😥
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There are more factors than particle size that go into it, but hey what do infectious disease experts/doctors know? You're the expert.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Correct. I refuse to believe they have any real effectiveness based on the particle size and people basically being dumbasses. And now you’re backsliding on the process 😥
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I guess the hope is that enough people will get the hang of wearing a mask that it can have some effect. I hate masks, but another shutdown would be catastrophic. I don't see how it's not worth at least trying.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
You know that's not true. It's going to become a health code issue just like the previous guidelines.
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i was referring to individual people, not businesses, but as long as you HAVE guidelines and are TRYING to abide by them, you won't get in trouble
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
There are more factors than particle size that go into it, but hey what do infectious disease experts/doctors know? You're the expert.
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Not really. And it’s in their best interests to put a positive message forth.

But since you brought it up what is the one method that they always bring up first? Social distancing... the rest is just “but if you can’t do that” 🤷‍♂️
 
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GAVol said:
I guess the hope is that enough people will get the hang of wearing a mask that it can have some effect. I hate masks, but another shutdown would be catastrophic. I don't see how it's not worth at least trying.
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Remember my comment on personal bargaining? 😬
 
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jackcrevol said:
Sweden is looking good
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Sweden’s death rate per one million people is 536, Norway its neighbor who mandated social distancing is 45, and Finland its other neighbor who also implemented social distancing is 59. So in other words, Sweden’s death rate is 10x higher than its neighbors. I don’t know why some continue to repeat this mantra?
 
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