Knox County Passes Mandatory Indoor Face Masks

[Jackcrevol]

Sweden’s death rate per one million people is 536, Norway its neighbor who mandated social distancing is 45, and Finland its other neighbor who also implemented social distancing is 59. So in other words, Sweden’s death rate is 10x higher than its neighbors. I don’t know why some continue to repeat this mantra?

Sweden is heralded as a Green Country.

Swedes learn English at an early age. Only Norwegian I known is Fjord.

 

[allvol123]

Sweden’s death rate per one million people is 536, Norway its neighbor who mandated social distancing is 45, and Finland its other neighbor who also implemented social distancing is 59. So in other words, Sweden’s death rate is 10x higher than its neighbors. I don’t know why some continue to repeat this mantra?

Belgium is like 800 and they went all in on the mitigation efforts.

 

[volfanhill]

You know that's not true. It's going to become a health code issue just like the previous guidelines.

In our restaurants, that are in areas requiring masks, we are offering people one when they come in if they don’t have one on. Then offering them one again once they are seated. So far this has satisfied the HD in these areas. Obviously that could change.

 

[landscapingvol]

Belgium is like 800 and they went all in on the mitigation efforts.

Maybe but Belgium’s cases and deaths have been non-existent for weeks, as have South Korea, and Japan which enforced strict quarantining. The US is in a territory of its own in terms of the duration of the outbreak due to its inconsistent strategies and the reluctance of most people to change their daily routines at all.

 

[allvol123]

Maybe but Belgium’s cases and deaths have been non-existent for weeks, as have South Korea, and Japan which enforced strict quarantining. The US is in a territory of its own in terms of the duration of the outbreak due to its inconsistent strategies and the reluctance of most people to change their daily routines at all.

Maybe because it burned thru?

 

[Orange_Crush]

This is a bull**** law and I hope it's challenged to the upper courts.

 

[allvol123]

This is what is being advertised on VN? Shameful.

 

[landscapingvol]

Maybe because it burned thru?

Japan’s population is 126 million and South Korea’s population is 52 million so it’s extremely unlikely considering Japan has only had 18k infections and S. Korea 13k infections. It’s possible on Belgium but unlikely as well considering they have a total population of 11.5 million and have a total of 62k infections currently. Do I believe China covered up their total deaths? Absolutely, but they have done a pretty good job containing it thus far considering their massive population. They are willing to go much further in terms of government policies than we are so I acknowledge that but it seems to me some form of quarantining and proactive measures is effective. The US strategy differs from state to state. Just my two cents

 

[roberthunter]

So a bunch of unelected idiots can have you fined for not wearing their mask? Yeah I don’t think that’s possible

The statute that says it is a class c misdemeanor to violate health regulations promulgated by county health boards has existed before this and will continue to exist. Our legislators granted them that power.

https://advance.lexis.com/documentp...kkk&prid=80654853-2908-4b77-a111-0715cfabe3a7

In federal and state government there are many example of regulatory boards, agencies, etc that are made of people appointed by elected officials that are given power over specific areas to regulate, enact mandates, etc.

On a very broad scale, our Supreme Court is an example of this. Nonelected people who wield great power to shape the law.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

You know that's not true. It's going to become a health code issue just like the previous guidelines.

Smoking bans are in the TCA. This is a “law” created by a body that has no law making authority.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Smoking bans are in the TCA. This is a “law” created by a body that has no law making authority.

I'm talking about the covid guidelines, but please continue to educate me on restaurants and health codes.

However, if you want to talk smoking, do you think 21 and up only applies to smoking bars as some guideline, or is that a law? In b4 "you have to be 21 to buy tobacco" because that rule predates that law.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

In our restaurants, that are in areas requiring masks, we are offering people one when they come in if they don’t have one on. Then offering them one again once they are seated. So far this has satisfied the HD in these areas. Obviously that could change.

I imagine it's easier to enforce in restaurants. We serve food, but only because TN requires us to. It's definitely a nightclub so that's why we're fixing the issue on entry. If we let 200 drunk people decide for themselves, it's just not going to work out well in the wee hours.

 

[TrumpedUpVol]

I imagine it's easier to enforce in restaurants. We serve food, but only because TN requires us to. It's definitely a nightclub so that's why we're fixing the issue on entry. If we let 200 drunk people decide for themselves, it's just not going to work out well in the wee hours.

Are you just validating mask presence upon entry and mandating that patrons wear said mask when ordering a drink from the bar (if applicable)/walking to the restroom? I get that every type of business is different and anything that’s more alcohol-focused has had to pivot a lot over the last few months, so I’m genuinely curious how various establishments are adhering to both the Tennessee Pledge and mask edict (i.e. allowing bar seating since it isn’t expressly prohibited [just discouraged] under the new guidelines, dealing with people being unable to wear a mask while physically drinking, etc.).

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Are you just validating mask presence upon entry and mandating that patrons wear said mask when ordering a drink from the bar (if applicable)/walking to the restroom? I get that every type of business is different and anything that’s more alcohol-focused has had to pivot a lot over the last few months, so I’m genuinely curious how various establishments are adhering to both the Tennessee Pledge and mask edict (i.e. allowing bar seating since it isn’t expressly prohibited [just discouraged] under the new guidelines, dealing with people being unable to wear a mask while physically drinking, etc.).

If you're at a table, you don't need to wear one. Same goes for our auxiliary bar since it isn't manned and we have groups of 3 seats separated by ten feet.

If you're up dancing or just mingling around, my staff reminds you to wear it if you aren't. We were busy last night and have zero problems. We wanted to go ahead and start a day ahead to gauge it in preparation for the next two nights since they are huge.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I imagine it's easier to enforce in restaurants. We serve food, but only because TN requires us to. It's definitely a nightclub so that's why we're fixing the issue on entry. If we let 200 drunk people decide for themselves, it's just not going to work out well in the wee hours.

You mean in the morning when he asks her to put her mask back on because she looked better with it?

 

[volbeast33]

Anti-maskers, your arguments are duly noted and thrown out the window...

Knox County Board of Health passes face mask mandate

Didn’t the sheriff tell them to suck it

 

[FLVOL69]

There'll be no football in the Fall
And soon there'll be no sports at all
Kids will be learning from the home
And older folks left all alone
We'll head back to an economic stop
But you'll have no tears for the moms and pops
It doesn't seem like much to ask
It's not a hazmat suit, this mask
The case count will just rise and rise
But you won't care til a loved one dies
Wearing a mask is so easy to do
But f*** all else, it's all about you

Death rates have declined since mid April and masks don’t do **** so stay scared and ignorant

 

[Orange_Crush]

Death rates have declined since mid April and masks don’t do **** so stay scared and ignorant View attachment 290329

That pic is a gross way to make a point. lol

 

[FLVOL69]

That pic is a gross way to make a point. lol

Maybe so but it’s effective

 

[GAVol]

Death rates have declined since mid April and masks don’t do **** so stay scared and ignorant View attachment 290329

Unbelievably... this has been researched... Professor answers question about why jeans can't stop a fart, but a mask can prevent coronavirus | Daily Mail Online

 

[FLVOL69]

Unbelievably... this has been researched... Professor answers question about why jeans can't stop a fart, but a mask can prevent coronavirus | Daily Mail Online

That’s ****ing crazy

 

[reecetn]

The article you shared specifically discusses the use of a surgical mask within a hospital setting. Of course you wouldn't use a surgical mask in a hospital to try and prevent exposure to Covid 19. You aren't in a hospital so a surgical mask will suffice for ppe going in and out of public buildings.

No it will not prevent Covid19!!! ANYWHERE So.....
The 50 dollar fines and jail time proposed should be reserved for any legislator trying to run that B*ll $hi* and any moron incompetent enough to read the scientific proof masks do not work.

A properly fitted N95 will block 95% of tiny air particles — down to three-tenths of a micron in diameter, which is the hardest to catch — from reaching the wearer’s face. But surgical masks, designed to protect patients from a surgeon’s respiratory droplets, aren’t effective at blocking particles smaller than 100 microns, according to mask maker 3M Corp.

 

[DynaLo]

I don't know how many times it has to be said: masks don't protect the wearer. They protect those around the wearer. If I wear a mask and you don't, you're protected from me but I am not protected from you.

Think of it this way:

If you and I are standing next to each other and neither of us is wearing pants, and I start to pee, you're going to get my urine all over your bare legs.

If you are wearing pants but I'm not, your pants will keep off a little bit of my urine, but you're still going to get most of it on your legs.

But if I'm wearing pants, my urine is going to get soaked up by my pants, and you will stay nice and dry.

Pee on my leg and a mask is the last damn thing you would be worrying about

 

[Purple Tiger]

So your whole argument revolves around the “asymptomatic” unicorn. Because if you’re sick and coughing you need to keep your diseased ass home. I pressed my Dr on the point and he admitted there isn’t a great deal that can be done about the unicorn.

The SARS COV-2 particle is even about 8 times smaller than the mesh in the N95 mask. The particle by itself is just going to pass right thru. And if your phlegm is trapped in your mask normal respiration is going to eventually free those trapped particles because the mask mesh damn sure won’t.

In reading up on the mechanisms by which masks trap particles I learned about a mechanism which could give hope. Basically electrostatic attraction. Alas the SARS COV 2 particle is too large for that to be very effective.

The SARS COV 2 particle falls in the area even on the N95 mask that it is only about 50% effective.

Some of us like myself believe that basically short of a self contained rebreather and eye coverings there’s nothing you can do to block the virus. And all everybody is doing is reaching their own bargaining happy point on the seven step acceptance process. But that is as absolutely terrifying reality that no sane government would confess to. Thus... we have the great mask hope.

Either stay away from people (and where people have been... don’t leave that point out!) or go out in a space suit.

Where did you get your medical degree, ND40? All my doctors say to wear a mask.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Where did you get your medical degree, ND40? All my doctors say to wear a mask.

Reading comprehension is your friend as usual. I guess were used to it out of you though.

My Dr said wear a mask. I pressed on the asymptomatic patient crap.