Knox County Passes Mandatory Indoor Face Masks

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USF grad in TN said:
What about stop signs, speed limits, building codes, seat belts, air bags, ingredient labels on groceries, OSHA regulations to protect us at work, requirements for doctors & engineers to take training and prove they know what they're doing? Should we eliminate all of those things? Are those things left wing and authoritarian?
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If you went to Engineering School and got your BS and MS and lived in TN. Do you think you should be able to put Engineer on a business card?
 
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wombat7477 said:
It's only a matter of person freedom when it only affects you. When some mouth breathing yokel risks my health and the friends and family I come in contact with, then it's no longer person freedom.

It's not that hard to wear a mask. Don't be that douche.
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Stay home is the other side of the coin. Don't be that douche.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Eww who sneezes IN another person ? That’s definitely a violation of personal space .
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Orange_Crush said:
That's what's stupid. We never halted life for the flu. We were told that it was the death rate that made Covid special enough to crater the economy and society. Now it's a non-factor?

Stupid.
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COVID killed more in the US than the Korean and Vietnam wars combined and it did that in 3.5 months. Not stupid. What Flu outbreak did that since the 1918 flu pandemic?
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
COVID killed more in the US than the Korean and Vietnam wars combined and it did that in 3.5 months. Not stupid. What Flu outbreak did that since the 1918 flu pandemic?
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You're talking past tense. I'm talking about a rapidly plummeting death rate. You said:

ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
I heard that. Still I know there will be pressure for states to reverse opening back up if the cases rise regardless of the death rate. It’s already happening.
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I said that's stupid. And it is. It is absolutely stupid to pressure for societal closures "regardless of the death rate".

What's so hard to understand about that?
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Wrong. Check my recent posts regarding a mask test at a Scientific lab. I saw it on NBC news Friday.
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As someone who deals with white papers and scientific studies quite a bit, you can manipulate any study or paper to say what you want.

I mean if you want to believe that eating nothing but beef jerky for every meal is the best diet then there is a study or paper out that will say that.

Broaden your base a little. Or hey keep up the fight. I don’t care.

I wear masks for work all the time. I know what they can and can’t do. And clinically where they are effective and ineffective.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Read that Tn. Cases we’re going up a couple of days ago online on one of the major news organizations sites. . I did not verify with any of the official government or medical sites.
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I mean we are seeing positive tests with no symptoms for at least 4 months..... I wish they would give us info on how many are legitimately sick.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
They can but it has been noted on Volnation that it protect the person you come into contact with even more.
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I’ve always heard they aren’t for your protection but they protect others. I fail to see how that can be true. It is what it is though. No one on here is changing their mind on anything.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Someone can visit a store and involuntary have a cough or sneeze. Happens all the time. I want to see the spread stopped because of elderly family. I would rather keep them safe until a vaccination is available. I don’t drink kool-aid but I suggest you refrain from the weed. It’s clouding your judgement.
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How old are you, 13? I'm a board-certified Pediatrician that takes $#!+ all the time on the PF for speaking out against marijuana.

Here's my Ingles trip tonight:

Cashier: mask over mouth, nose exposed. How did it get there? What's touching my groceries as they are scanned?

Bag boy: mask on, bags groceries, then proceeds to lift mask, rub it over his nose, then wipe his sweaty mouth with hands. Next customer, mask pulled back down.

As I exit, older gentleman entering pulls mask from pants pocket, puts it on, adjusts mask, grabs cart.

Nobody coughed, sneezed, or farted.

I know this requires JUST A LITTLE thought, but try. Please... Try.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
How old are you, 13? I'm a board-certified Pediatrician that takes $#!+ all the time on the PF for speaking out against marijuana.

Here's my Ingles trip tonight:

Cashier: mask over mouth, nose exposed. How did it get there? What's touching my groceries as they are scanned?

Bag boy: mask on, bags groceries, then proceeds to lift mask, rub it over his nose, then wipe his sweaty mouth with hands. Next customer, mask pulled back down.

As I exit, older gentleman entering pulls mask from pants pocket, puts it on, adjusts mask, grabs cart.

Nobody coughed, sneezed, or farted.

I know this requires JUST A LITTLE thought, but try. Please... Try.
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This is who you're arguing with, doc.

ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
I heard that. Still I know there will be pressure for states to reverse opening back up if the cases rise regardless of the death rate. It’s already happening.
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That's LITERALLY the equivalent of saying we should shutter society for the common cold. High infection rate, regardless of mortality rate. And he couldn't understand why it was a stupid comment.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
COVID killed more in the US than the Korean and Vietnam wars combined and it did that in 3.5 months. Not stupid. What Flu outbreak did that since the 1918 flu pandemic?
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I remember 5 months ago there were 11 cases and Trump said it was going away. We are closing in on 3 million now.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
COVID killed more in the US than the Korean and Vietnam wars combined and it did that in 3.5 months. Not stupid. What Flu outbreak did that since the 1918 flu pandemic?
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Those wars killed young men. This kills those in assisted living. Especially deadly when the governor forces infected to spread it in those homes

How many have died of the flu in the past decade? How many mandatory shutdowns have we had?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I remember 5 months ago there were 11 cases and Trump said it was going away. We are closing in on 3 million now.
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Your posts on here are like Charlie Brown’s teacher. Always the same noise but nobody cares because it’s irrelevant to the show.
 
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UT_Dutchman said:
So what is the amount of viral load needed to infect one? I'm sure it varies by individual with many variables in play.
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That’s a question for a virologist. You read mixed reports. Early on it was transfer concerns. How long it lives on surfaces. Wash hands, etc.
Now, they’re saying transfer is not as likely and that it’s airborne. So, my screen door example is the best. We need standardization for masks and one use, then dispose or sanitize. Otherwise it’s all for show.

The libertarian in me thinks the mask thing is more about compliance than effect.
 
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utvolpj said:
Those wars killed young men. This kills those in assisted living. Especially deadly when the governor forces infected to spread it in those homes

How many have died of the flu in the past decade? How many mandatory shutdowns have we had?
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Just stop already. I've had four mouses break from liking so many of your posts. It's unnatural. ;)
 
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Jxn Vol said:
Your posts on here are like Charlie Brown’s teacher. Always the same noise but nobody cares because it’s irrelevant to the show.
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Yes, its irrelevant that we have 300,000 X the number of cases Trump was touting as the limit.
 
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IF you don't like comparison to the flu for wearing a mask, then let's compare to HIV. The government didn't mandate that any at risk or not individual must wear a condom during sex with a threat of fine or jail. HIV was 200+ times more deadly.
 
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utvolpj said:
Those wars killed young men. This kills those in assisted living. Especially deadly when the governor forces infected to spread it in those homes

How many have died of the flu in the past decade? How many mandatory shutdowns have we had?
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Why don’t you give the numbers? What flu outbreaks have done this much in so little time?
 
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