Kyle Rittenhouse - The Truth in 11 Minutes

[C-south]

They are the focal problem, but vigilantism is not the answer. It will cause more problems than it will prevent.

It’s absolutely the answer.

 

[hog88]

The way the deliberation is going it appears there is not consensus among the jurors. IMO they are asking for the instructions to illustrate their points in the particulars of law. I'm not sure they come to verdict here, that surprises me.

Hung jury or they convict on lesser charges.

 

[RockyTop85]

The idea that the judge is a problem is manufactured nonsense so the left will have an excuse. This whole trial should have never happened

That’s not what I said and yes it absolutely should have happened.

 

[C-south]

That’s not what I said and yes it absolutely should have happened.

Because evidence was withheld until trial?

 

[Vol8188]

That’s not what I said and yes it absolutely should have happened.

You’re pretending that the judge is intentionally drawing attention to himself. Would you like to defend that claim?

And why should it have happened? Seems to be a very obvious case of self defense, does it not?

 

[ETV]

I couldn't imagine anyone paying him for speaking gigs or having him endorse their product.

Correct. Not with cancel culture in full swing.

 

[RikidyBones]

I don't know who you are talking about.

I think any person who engages in property destruction or otherwise converts a protest into a riot with losses should be held criminally accountable for their acts and the losses they cause, just as he should be held accountable for his.

Taking a kid to a protest send teaching them about civil discourse and protecting is fine. But of there's rioting and you have your kid there and are promoting that, I think that's awful too and should result in some form of sanction.

Pay attention. I am NOT justifying or excusing rioting. I don't know anyone here who has.

But I also think this young man's decisions to play guardsman for a day was fraught with the risk that materialized and two people are dead because of it. That has to be remedied.

Two people are dead because they decided to chase and assault someone with a gun.

 

[0nelilreb]

No credible argument can be made that he was protecting himself when he took the gun, got into his car, and drove over there.

You realize this is why so many people don’t trust lawyers right ?

 

[ButchPlz]

You realize this is why so many people don’t trust lawyers right ?

HATE SPEECH

 

[RikidyBones]

 

[0nelilreb]

I really hope that’s not true .

 

[DynaLo]

I'm pretty sure that he will need at least a high school diploma for that. Kyle Rittenhouse is a high school dropout, and wannabe cop, who was recently rejected by the Marine corps..

It's funny how some of you are making this kid out to be Wally Cleaver. Normal teenagers don't brandish lethal weaponry in the streets during a riot, as he was filmed doing. He was not a law enforcement officer, a security guard, an EMT, or a member of the fire department. His actions were that of a vigilante.

Kyle did online classes to finish high school. He stated it under court testimony. As for needing that high school diploma..

It looks like he got it.

Arizona State University confirmed that Rittenhouse enrolled as a non-degree-seeking online student for the session that started in mid-October of this year.

The online program allows students access to begin taking classes as they prepare to seek admission into a degree program at the university.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I'm pretty sure that he will need at least a high school diploma for that. Kyle Rittenhouse is a high school dropout, and wannabe cop, who was recently rejected by the Marine corps..

It's funny how some of you are making this kid out to be Wally Cleaver. Normal teenagers don't brandish lethal weaponry in the streets during a riot, as he was filmed doing. He was not a law enforcement officer, a security guard, an EMT, or a member of the fire department. His actions were that of a vigilante.

Wally Cleaver never snuffed out two folks who deserved it like Kyle did. Terrible analogy.

 

[RockyTop85]

You’re pretending that the judge is intentionally drawing attention to himself. Would you like to defend that claim?

And why should it have happened? Seems to be a very obvious case of self defense, does it not?

Im not pretending anything.

He argued with CNN talking heads from the bench, did the whole applause for veterans thing, and had the defendant draw alternates out in a raffle. Independently they’re just oddities. Taken together, he’s absolutely playing for attention. I never said it was a problem, at least not with the outcome of the case.

Rittenhouse killed two people, was indicted by a grand jury for murder, and the situation has received national attention. The government absolutely has an obligation to determine whether those lives were justifiably taken, or whether the killing was criminal. That determination involves either a unilateral decision to dismiss by prosecutors or a jury verdict.

Having the determination made by a deliberative body it preferred because it lends weight to the outcome, limiting doubt about its validity as effectively as our imperfect system can manage. It also dispels questions about improper motives on the part of the decisionmaker.

For example, I recently had an argument on here with some moron who said that prosecutors dropping charges wasn’t sufficient to clear someone’s name. He insisted that the person was a rapist, even though they were never convicted and weren’t even indicted by a grand jury.

 

[Boston Vol]

I really hope that’s not true .

Well considering that it’s Posobiec, it’s probably not.

 

[VolStrom]

I really hope that’s not true .

I can believe it. A lot of people don't have a spine anymore and worry more about themselves than they do doing what is right, even when someone else's life is on the line. These charges should have never been brought if the prosecutor had done one bit of investigation and reviewed the videos. This entire trial is one big political theater display.

 

[DynaLo]

Not if you're a cop. When you're a 17 year old high school dropout, you should concentrate on getting a GED, and leave crowd control and disbursement up to the trained professionals.

A diploma and being enrolled in online classes at ASU pretty much override that GED you’re suggesting.

 

[VolnJC]

Read its 10-2 acquittal but who really knows

 

[Vol8188]

Im not pretending anything.

He argued with CNN talking heads from the bench, did the whole applause for veterans thing, and had the defendant draw alternates out in a raffle. Independently they’re just oddities. Taken together, he’s absolutely playing for attention. I never said it was a problem, at least not with the outcome of the case.

Rittenhouse killed two people, was indicted by a grand jury for murder, and the situation has received national attention. The government absolutely has an obligation to determine whether those lives were justifiably taken, or whether the killing was criminal. That determination involves either a unilateral decision to dismiss by prosecutors or a jury verdict.

Having the determination made by a deliberative body it preferred because it lends weight to the outcome, limiting doubt about its validity as effectively as our imperfect system can manage. It also dispels questions about improper motives on the part of the decisionmaker.

For example, I recently had an argument on here with some moron who said that prosecutors dropping charges wasn’t sufficient to clear someone’s name. He insisted that the person was a rapist, even though they were never convicted and weren’t even indicted by a grand jury.

Some people are morons isn’t a valid excuse for putting someone through this in a clear cut case.

Mentioning veterans on Veterans Day. Idk how that can be seen as a problem. Seems outrageous anyone would even pretend it is.

Seems like you’re really reaching. What’s the part about him arguing with cnn?

 

[VolStrom]

Read its 10-2 acquittal but who really knows

10-2? It doesn't quite work like that.

 

[ButchPlz]

Some people are morons isn’t a valid excuse for putting someone through this in a clear cut case.

Mentioning veterans on Veterans Day. Idk how that can be seen as a problem. Seems outrageous anyone would even pretend it is.

Seems like you’re really reaching. What’s the part about him arguing with cnn?

By "arguing with CNN" he meant "ripping apart the idiot prosecutor" I bet. Same difference.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I suppose that anyone can file a civil lawsuit against anyone, but what does Rittenhouse have to fear if he's found not guilty?

Pedophiles have a union. They are definitely organized.

 

[ButchPlz]

Pedophiles have a union. They are definitely organized.

They have academic, media, and political support too.

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

The rioters are outside the courtroom with megaphones broadcasting threats.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I haven't defended anyone, but Rittenhouse. That is an outright lie. I have said in multiple posts, that even vigilantes have the right to defend themselves when someone points a gun at them. Based on the evidence brought forth in this case. I think Kyle Rittenhouse should be acquitted. He still shouldn't have been there in the first place.[/QUOTE]Why do so many people feel the need to add this? Are you ashamed to admit that the good guy was the one with the gun this time?

"I think Kyle Rittenhouse should be acquitted." That is all that needs to be said.