Kyle Rittenhouse - The Truth in 11 Minutes

[luthervol]

The difference is one of those was preventable. “A natural disaster was more expensive” does not excuse poor behavior.

I've never once tried to excuse that behavior.
I have repeatedly said the rioters are pathetic and should be arrested and prosecuted.

 

[Electric Orange]

I already said it was 1-2 billion. That hasn't been disputed.
Hurricane Irma was 65 billion.

Multi billion dollars in damages is a significant issue especially to the people who had property damaged, loved ones hurt or lost, or caught charges as a result of getting caught up in the mass hysteria over a dead career criminal junkie.

 

[1vol8]

It was horrible for those.
Just as a car crash is horrible for the person in the crash.

Car crashes aren’t senseless, they’re accidental and unfortunate. What BLM did was purposeful intent. Apples to oranges argument

 

[Vol8188]

I would like to see his whole comment, not the piece Brietbart conveniently cut in mid sentence.

Here Fox News gives a longer quote. It doesn’t get better. He just starts talking about how the country was founded on non peaceful protests.

So we agree he supports protests. We should now agree he doesn’t believe those protests have to be peaceful. Non peaceful protests are riots.

How can you still proclaim he doesn’t support riots?

CNN's Chris Cuomo blasted for suggesting protesters don't have to be 'peaceful'

 

[1vol8]

He does not care!

He’s making excuses because he knows it’s his people destroying cities, infringing on our rights, leaving Americans behind enemy lines, opening the boarders to cartel and placing sleeper cells all around the US. This is what this man voted for

 

[whodeycin85]

1-2 billion.
1/65th the damage of Hurricane Ida.

If you asked the typical right wing nut this question, "which caused the most damage, the 2020 riots or Hurricane Ida?" 95% of them would say the riots.....and it wasn't even close.
You have been mind screwed.

You comparing adults throwing a tantrum to a Natrual disaster. Your to far gone to have anymore logical conversations with....again 2 billion, 2000 plus injured 11 dead....by babies throwing a fit

 

[luthervol]

Here Fox News gives a longer quote. It doesn’t get better. He just starts talking about how the country was founded on non peaceful protests.

So we agree he supports protests. We should now agree he doesn’t believe those protests have to be peaceful. Non peaceful protests are riots.

How can you still proclaim he doesn’t support riots?

CNN's Chris Cuomo blasted for suggesting protesters don't have to be 'peaceful'

I'm pretty sure if you asked him if he supported riots he would say "hell no, I don't support riots".
If you asked him if injustices could go on unanswered for a long enough period time that it would justify more aggressive protests, he may very well say yes.

The left did not and does not support riots.
The riots (as despicable as they were) were nowhere near as catastrophic and widespread as the right tried to portray.
93% of BLM protests were peaceful.
99% of BLM protestors were peaceful.

 

[Vol8188]

I'm pretty sure if you asked him if he supported riots he would say "hell no, I don't support riots".

Yet he supports protests and proclaims they don’t have to be peaceful? I can provide additional CNN commentary defending riots. Here a cnn reporter says people are rioting because it’s the only way anyone will listen, meanwhile Cuomo just nods along.

WATCH: CNN Reporter Makes Excuses For Rioting, Looting | The Daily Wire

 

[UT_VOLS13]

I'm pretty sure if you asked him if he supported riots he would say "hell no, I don't support riots".
If you asked him if injustices could go on unanswered for a long enough period time that it would justify more aggressive protests, he may very well say yes.

The left did not and does not support riots.
The riots (as despicable as they were) were nowhere near as catastrophic and widespread as the right tried to portray.
93% of BLM protests were peaceful.
99% of BLM protestors were peaceful.

LOL

 

[Vol8188]

I'm pretty sure if you asked him if he supported riots he would say "hell no, I don't support riots".
If you asked him if injustices could go on unanswered for a long enough period time that it would justify more aggressive protests, he may very well say yes.

The left did not and does not support riots.
The riots (as despicable as they were) were nowhere near as catastrophic and widespread as the right tried to portray.
93% of BLM protests were peaceful.
99% of BLM protestors were peaceful.

I see you edited your post so I’ll address this. The 93% number is highly criticized. It comes from ACLED, an organization that has openly supported BLM. It even referred to CHOP (the autonomous zone in Seattle I believe) as one of its peaceful protests despite two murders and a rape occurring during their “peaceful protests”.

 

[luthervol]

I see you edited your post so I’ll address this. The 93% number is highly criticized. It comes from ACLED, an organization that has openly supported BLM. It even referred to CHOP (the autonomous zone in Seattle I believe) as one of its peaceful protests despite two murders and a rape occurring during their “peaceful protests”.

I'm pretty sure they didn't include CHOP as a peaceful protest.
I am 100% certain that the protests I attended and the multiple protests my daughters and their friends attended were peaceful.
I can speak from first hand experience.

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

First and hopefully many more to come!

 

[UT_VOLS13]

I'm pretty sure they didn't include CHOP as a peaceful protest.
I am 100% certain that the protests I attended and the multiple protests my daughters and their friends attended were peaceful.
I can speak from first hand experience.

LOL, sure!

 

[luthervol]

LOL, sure!

You're questioning the honesty of my post?

 

[walkenvol]

1-2 billion.
1/65th the damage of Hurricane Ida.

If you asked the typical right wing nut this question, "which caused the most damage, the 2020 riots or Hurricane Ida?" 95% of them would say the riots.....and it wasn't even close.
You have been mind screwed.

I typically avoid these pointless arguments, but are you really comparing a natural disaster to criminal property damages by rioters?

 

[luthervol]

I typically avoid these pointless arguments, but are you really comparing a natural disaster to criminal property damages by rioters?

Probably a good idea to continue avoiding them.
I think it was abundantly clear what I was comparing. The amount of damage inflicted by each. It's called perspective.

 

[Vol8188]

I'm pretty sure they didn't include CHOP as a peaceful protest.
I am 100% certain that the protests I attended and the multiple protests my daughters and their friends attended were peaceful.
I can speak from first hand experience.

Are you willing to admit you’re wrong?

Edit: let’s also note the fact that their source for this claim that CHOP violence was not political, is about as far left as it comes. They actually cited VOX

Edit 2: how many left wing narratives like this do you have to watch implode, before you begin seeing the fault?

Demonstrations & Political Violence in America: New Data for Summer 2020 | ACLED

 

[whodeycin85]

Probably a good idea to continue avoiding them.
I think it was abundantly clear what I was comparing. The amount of damage inflicted by each. It's called perspective.

Perspective would be comparing like events...ir LA riots vs Last years riots.......conparing to a non man involved eventnit stupid...even for you

 

[Vol8188]

Perspective would be comparing like events...ir LA riots vs Last years riots.......conparing to a non man involved eventnit stupid...even for you

I wonder if he makes such dumb comparisons in his personal finances:

Wife-did you just give 2k to Bernie?

Luther-do you know how much damage the average hurricane causes? 2k is nothing!

 

[Electric Orange]

 

[luthervol]

Are you willing to admit you’re wrong?

Edit: let’s also note the fact that their source for this claim that CHOP violence was not political, is about as far left as it comes. They actually cited VOX

Edit 2: how many left wing narratives like this do you have to watch implode, before you begin seeing the fault?

Demonstrations & Political Violence in America: New Data for Summer 2020 | ACLED

It looks to me like they counted Portland as a location of riots.
I'm not sure what you think you have proven, but from my end it has been nothing.
My stance is the same.
The vast majority (93%) of BLM protests were peaceful. (also from my own personal experiences in and around Atl)
The vast majority of BLM protestors were peaceful.
Right wing media attempted to portray it in the worst light possible. (liberal media slanted to the positive)
The "cities burning" narrative is completely overblown propaganda.
The left does not condone rioting. (certainly less so than the right condoned the Jan. 6th riot)

 

[luthervol]

Perspective would be comparing like events...ir LA riots vs Last years riots.......conparing to a non man involved eventnit stupid...even for you

No it's not. I'm comparing things that lead to loss.
Here's another one for you.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/28/government-shutdown-cost-the-economy-11-billion-cbo.html
The government shutdown cost the economy $11 billion, including a permanent $3 billion loss, Congressional Budget Office says
That's Trump's by the way.

 

[Vol8188]

It looks to me like they counted Portland as a location of riots.
I'm not sure what you think you have proven, but from my end it has been nothing.
My stance is the same.
The vast majority (93%) of BLM protests were peaceful. (also from my own personal experiences in and around Atl)
The vast majority of BLM protestors were peaceful.
Right wing media attempted to portray it in the worst light possible. (liberal media slanted to the positive)
The "cities burning" narrative is completely overblown propaganda.
The left does not condone rioting. (certainly less so than the right condoned the Jan. 6th riot)

What does Portland have to do with anything?

You claimed they counted CHOP. I showed you their data were they specifically stated CHOP was only peaceful protests. Idk how you can argue against that?

 

[KB5252]

Give me a break.
93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds
The vast majority of Black Lives Matter protests—more than 93%—have been peaceful, according to a new report published Thursday by a nonprofit that researches political violence and protests across the world.

The degree to which you guys have allowed yourselves to be propagandized is astounding.

This is true to some extent, but what happens after the organized protest ends some of their elements stay and participate in looting and violence. While they aren't technically responsible the group BLM, at least their militant founders anyway, have called for and have endorsed the looting and violence as a form of protest.

 

[Vol8188]

No it's not. I'm comparing things that lead to loss.
Here's another one for you.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/28/government-shutdown-cost-the-economy-11-billion-cbo.html
The government shutdown cost the economy $11 billion, including a permanent $3 billion loss, Congressional Budget Office says
That's Trump's by the way.

That’s an interesting perspective. So they’re saying it costs the economy 3 billion?

Given the federal government spends 18 billion a day (6.6trillion divided by 365), if it only costs the economy 3 billion a day, I think we are making a 15 billion dollar profit. Maybe we should shut the government down more often