Lady Vols Conflict

[PineyBluff Vol]

:rock:The Lady Vols seem to have several problems in games. First we use a full court press with success part of the time...then quit. Why? Is this a coaching or players decision or simply lack of personnel to pursue physically?

Next we have a horrible offense with players that simply do not move. Three are spread across the end of the court while two move about on the perimeter without success of getting the ball inside. Look at the good teams of UConn, ND and others, all their players are on the move constantly...then an opposition player makes a mistake resulting in a score.

Why are the good players choosing other schools? We went for four post players and came up empty handed. The lost of the Kentucky transfer may not have been bad...Kentucky did not seemed concerned that she was leaving either.

As Fred so eloquently put it in Red October...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb0QLxcvowk I'm not sure who is making the plans for this team!

 

[armchair]

I'm curious to know how Harper, on a visit, would be be to detect chemistry problems. First, did she visit for and watch a game? When we talk about "chemistry" we are talking about on-court cohesiveness. Is that what she was talking about, or something else? I'm a little skeptical about this comment from her.

RE Cooper, she is talented but not so much against a zone defense, and IMO she's been playing too much. When we get healthy we should be pressing for at least half of every game, unless our opponent is breaking our press effectively. The more up-tempo we can play the better, because our half-court offense is b-a-d.

 

[chuck0303]

There had to be a reason, other than Holly's inability to coach an effective offense, that was affecting this team. My worst fears may have been realized.
Holly's pre season quotes about the team lacking trust in each other were telling. Why was she able to take the injury depleted LV's (a 1 seed in last season's NCAA tournament) to the elite 8 last season while this season's supposedly more talented team looks headed for a 4+ seed ?
Now it's up to Holly to get everyone on the same page.
By definition, that's the coach's job.

What would Pat have done? Kicked them in the arse. No coddling from Pat. Grow up ladies! They probably don't respect Holly and that may be much of the problem. In any case, Holly needs to fix it otherwise the fan base will beat firing drums louder. The coach sets the tone.

 

[Sandvol]

Style? I watched the Wichita State game on ESPN3 and I can attest (under oath) that neither team played with "style."

Can't argue with you there but I thought Wichita State was better coached. However, what I mean is she is trying to feed the ball down low to the post which favors a slow style of play but when you are playing 12 players it usually means you are trying to run and press.

 

[j'adorevol89]

Hold wait a minute Taya left ND... I doubt she's even considering coming to Tennessee..... This team needs to get it together really fast.. I wonder if Staley is gonna have this issue with her team next year

 

[Hoya Saxa]

I'm curious to know how Harper, on a visit, would be be to detect chemistry problems.

The normal protocol for an official/unofficial visit is:

One current player would act as Harper's host(ess). She would show Harper around campus, take her to a couple of classes, bring her to the dining hall, etc. The recruit would attend a team practice and spend time with the whole team in the locker room. It would be a chance for the recruit to determine if the school is a good fit for her, and it is also a chance for the team to decide if the recruit is a good fit for the team. The Vols like to have recruits on weekends when there is a home football game (and the recruit would attend with the basketball team), but it is not always possible with scheduling conflicts. The recruit would also attend a home basketball game and sit behind the Tennessee bench with her family. After talking to as many team players as possible (some of whom the recruit knew in AAU ball), the recruit would have a pretty good idea of what is going on in the program. Sometimes one's perception does match reality, but it is all the recruit has to go on.

 

[Hoya Saxa]

Hold wait a minute Taya left ND... I doubt she's even considering coming to Tennessee.....

She is still enrolled at Notre Dame as a student and plans to finish the academic year. She will not be a member of the basketball team for the rest of the season. Whether or not she plans to play for Notre Dame in 2016/2017 is anyone's guess.

 

[Volfan2012]

After watching the first 9 games it has become obvious to me that some of these players aren't going to shoot much better than they are now so I'm probably cutting the rotation and trying to get a lineup in there that can at least be more offensive.

I probably start Carter at the point she seems to take care of the ball better than Reynolds and Cooper when she is playing there. I remember when she filled in for Massengale when she had that concussion she played much better there than Massengale had to that point.
Diamond is my two guard she needs to have a little better shot selection but she is certainly our best player and expect she needs about 15 shots per game maybe more when she can't get it inside.
I am going solely with Dunbar at the three as you have to have a three point threat in the lineup and she is about the only one we have. We could use Middleton some at the two she has a shot as well lost it somewhere between the Gatorade jam and Tennessee.
I'm playing Russell at center but demanding she become more aggressive in her move and quit be stationary so she can be tripled teamed. She needs to move side to side as the ball is reversed so we might hit her with a pass. She has been a career 56 percent shooter so we need her to get and take shots.
I play Nared or Graves at the high post four and only have on post up player. They can either try to drive the lane and get the ball to Russell from the high post.

Cooper gets backup minutes for Carter and Diamond

Right now Reynolds hasn't played well enough to get any minutes.

I figure we want see Jones, or Moore for a while both seemed to have injuries that may take a while.

 

[Volfan2012]

Where is Kaylyn Pugh going I think she is a better player than Harper if given the playing time. She left Ohio State and that opened up the scholarship for Harper. I think Pugh is going to be the better player.

 

[madtownvol]

OMG! Unnamed sources told Swish Appeal that Harper noticed palpable "chemistry issues" in the LV's locker room.

So, take it to the bank. The team is in total disarray; everyone hates everyone and refuses to pass the ball to each other even in passing drills; Diamond DeShields insists that each practice begins with all players and coaches kissing her ring!

Holly lies crying and helpless in a fetal position during practices!!

It is all true!true!true! according to unnamed sources. Cause here on the BONEYARD, we always assume the worst about the LVs! Uh, what? This board is "Vol Nation?" What the.....

 

[LVJeff]

Much ado about nothing in my opinion. Take 12 people at random and put them together and have them live together for a year (or four) and what are the odds that two of them won't like each other? The odds are like 100%.

 

[teacherdean]

There had to be a reason, other than Holly's inability to coach an effective offense, that was affecting this team. My worst fears may have been realized.
Holly's pre season quotes about the team lacking trust in each other were telling. Why was she able to take the injury depleted LV's (a 1 seed in last season's NCAA tournament) to the elite 8 last season while this season's supposedly more talented team looks headed for a 4+ seed ?
Now it's up to Holly to get everyone on the same page.
By definition, that's the coach's job.

I know I may be talking to the choir, but coaching is more then X's and O's. For the main thing at this level you have to have immense people skills. All these girls were superstars at their high schools and therefore come to college with skills, egos and use to being all that and a bag of chips. A coach must have the skills to harness all these egos and skills and turn them into a refined machine. Sad to say this does not seem to be a skill set that Holly possesses. Some coaches are doomed to be assistants for life because of their lack of leadership skills, right now Holly appears to fit into that category.

 

[Darth_Vol]

Nah, can't be anything to this. Just look at all the recruits lining up to play here next year....

 

[Orange_Mamba]

It's not far fetched. You have a loose cannon point guard who put up more shot attempts than assists. A forward who likes to play one on one basketball taking twenty shots a game. A forward shooting 78% on the season hardly getting any touches unless it's a rebound. A coach who continuosly feed player egos. When you watch the team play it's clear as day they still haven't bought into concept of being a team player.

 

[cwbytruckers]

They should have just fire Holly and go completely left field. Dane Bradshaw.

 

[teacherdean]

After watching the first 9 games it has become obvious to me that some of these players aren't going to shoot much better than they are now so I'm probably cutting the rotation and trying to get a lineup in there that can at least be more offensive.

I probably start Carter at the point she seems to take care of the ball better than Reynolds and Cooper when she is playing there. I remember when she filled in for Massengale when she had that concussion she played much better there than Massengale had to that point.
Diamond is my two guard she needs to have a little better shot selection but she is certainly our best player and expect she needs about 15 shots per game maybe more when she can't get it inside.
I am going solely with Dunbar at the three as you have to have a three point threat in the lineup and she is about the only one we have. We could use Middleton some at the two she has a shot as well lost it somewhere between the Gatorade jam and Tennessee.
I'm playing Russell at center but demanding she become more aggressive in her move and quit be stationary so she can be tripled teamed. She needs to move side to side as the ball is reversed so we might hit her with a pass. She has been a career 56 percent shooter so we need her to get and take shots.
I play Nared or Graves at the high post four and only have on post up player. They can either try to drive the lane and get the ball to Russell from the high post.

Cooper gets backup minutes for Carter and Diamond

Right now Reynolds hasn't played well enough to get any minutes.

I figure we want see Jones, or Moore for a while both seemed to have injuries that may take a while.

I have been disappointed with Russell's non aggressive play and her lack of controlling the paint in at least some of the games. I feel that is not all her fault. Some of that has got to be certainly coaching or a lack thereof, even announcers are talking about her lack of aggressiveness. What exactly are our coaches seeing? They are reviewing videos of games, at least I hope so. They must be one of the worse coaching staffs in D1. Against Wichita Russell had no rebounds and 4 points, that is awful. She is being dominated by cupcakes. This was not a great team with an aggressive 6'5" center. Poor Russell will get eaten alive once the team starts SEC play. I feel for her because she simply is not getting the development she needs and deserves.

 

[Orange Maniac]

In all fairness to Russell, I've seen her work hard for position and they wouldn't get the ball to her. Last game she fought for position, got it, then Reynolds threw the pass so far away it pulled her out of position to keep it from going out of bounds. I would assume after a while you get tired of working hard and not getting rewarded.

 

[teacherdean]

In all fairness to Russell, I've seen her work hard for position and they wouldn't get the ball to her. Last game she fought for position, got it, then Reynolds threw the pass so far away it pulled her out of position to keep it from going out of bounds. I would assume after a while you get tired of working hard and not getting rewarded.

That is when coaching takes over. I have seen her be aggressive at times but not consistently. Right now she looks more like a Kelley Cain except Kelley had to be one of the laziest players to wear an LV uniform. I think Russell's problem is more coaching than anything else.

 

[gule]

russell couldn't catch & hold a cold last game.... turrible hands and effort, imvvho

 

[tnburban]

OMG! Unnamed sources told Swish Appeal that Harper noticed palpable "chemistry issues" in the LV's locker room.

So, take it to the bank. The team is in total disarray; everyone hates everyone and refuses to pass the ball to each other even in passing drills; Diamond DeShields insists that each practice begins with all players and coaches kissing her ring!

Holly lies crying and helpless in a fetal position during practices!!

It is all true!true!true! according to unnamed sources. Cause here on the BONEYARD, we always assume the worst about the LVs! Uh, what? This board is "Vol Nation?" What the.....

Make all the jokes you want...this team and program is on the decline:frown:

 

[Volfan2012]

Massey has our next game Stanford 70 Tennessee 61. Do they really think we can score 71? I think it will be more like 58 to 48 Stanford.

 

[Volfan2012]

I have been disappointed with Russell's non aggressive play and her lack of controlling the paint in at least some of the games. I feel that is not all her fault. Some of that has got to be certainly coaching or a lack thereof, even announcers are talking about her lack of aggressiveness. What exactly are our coaches seeing? They are reviewing videos of games, at least I hope so. They must be one of the worse coaching staffs in D1. Against Wichita Russell had no rebounds and 4 points, that is awful. She is being dominated by cupcakes. This was not a great team with an aggressive 6'5" center. Poor Russell will get eaten alive once the team starts SEC play. I feel for her because she simply is not getting the development she needs and deserves.

Dean in the past has gotten the post girls playing good basketball. I noticed she can get good position when she wants to and can hold it. She seems to dislike contact and I personally would be a little ticked at some of those crazy passes Cooper is throwing when she penetrates all the way to the rim. She definitely needs more movement around the post. I get the impression that she gets in one spot and plants herself. I figure she will be a good player as a junior and senior but this year after sitting out she is soft and I guess it will take time for Dean to get her where she needs to be.
Same for Diamond she is not playing no where the superstar she is supposed to be but she is definitely still the best guard on the team.

 

[508mikey]

Wed Warlock gets destroyed by Stanford -- who has the honor of making the game thread ? The mens team is on TV at the same time, it might make for better viewing

 

[Darth_Vol]

It's not far fetched. You have a loose cannon point guard who put up more shot attempts than assists. A forward who likes to play one on one basketball taking twenty shots a game. A forward shooting 78% on the season hardly getting any touches unless it's a rebound. A coach who continuosly feed player egos. When you watch the team play it's clear as day they still haven't bought into concept of being a team player.

I don't think anyone who really follows the team closely is surprised by this report. My only question now is how many players leave after the season? Good thing Holly has that aforementioned awesome recruiting class lined up to step in....

 

[Rickster]

Before we jump to conclusions about possible conflict on the LV team, look hard at Linnae Harper and why Kentucky was so willing to let her go anywhere regarding schools. Someone indicated that she was stubborn and hard headed and hard to coach while at Kentucky...so maybe the pot could be calling the kettle black...

I question anything that has to do with "unnamed sources." These unnamed sources should have the courage to publicly stand by what they say or......shut up....unless they just want more controversy.