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#51,201
SmokyRiverDog said:
No. Legal immigrants are just as likely (or more likely as these companies would not knowingly break the law by hiring illegal immigrants) to work there and live in the same housing and community conditions.
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Legal status is a fair point. I don’t know if legal or illegal. And it’s largely beside the point (aside from the issue of potentially not seeking medical care). There are a lot of people where it’s 5 guys sharing an apartment working at these plants - or at least that was my experience from 20 years ago and growing up near one. My aunt worked there too - not saying everyone is an immigrant. I will say my aunt wasn’t paid well and struggled - and wouldn’t have missed work if feeling a little sick.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
so........ How many lives will have been saved by locking the country down? Surely their is a quantitative answer to this.
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There’s no real way to answer this, imo. If everyone stays home and does nothing then nothing happens but by doing nothing lives are being saved.

Say a hospital has 20 ventilators and nothing is done to stop the spread, and 25 people need ventilators those five lives that could’ve been saved by people staying at home and flattening the curve.
 
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#51,207
SmokyRiverDog said:
No. Legal immigrants are just as likely (or more likely as these companies would not knowingly break the law by hiring illegal immigrants) to work there and live in the same housing and community conditions.
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Okay, but when I said "I'm sure its because they're all a bunch of illegal Mexicans living 10 families in 500 square foot shack"... You said I nailed it.

Although its on a much smaller scale, I don't see it being an issue here. Whole subdivision of illegal Mexicans where probably 80% have worked for me at one time or another and the whole kitchen staff of a restaurant I'm involved with now live there, and I'm not aware of any testing positive for it. Probably 250 living in 13 houses. Lol.

Yea, maybe that's it. Maybe not. Damn Mexicans. Amirite?
 
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volfan_89 said:
There’s no real way to answer this, imo. If everyone stays home and does nothing then nothing happens but by doing nothing lives are being saved.

Say a hospital has 20 ventilators and nothing is done to stop the spread, and 25 people need ventilators those five lives that could’ve been saved by people staying at home and flattening the curve.
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Out of every 5 that go on a ventilator, maybe 1 gets off alive.
 
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Behr said:
Okay, but when I said "I'm sure its because they're all a bunch of illegal Mexicans living 10 families in 500 square foot shack"... You said I nailed it.

Although its on a much smaller scale, I don't see it being an issue here. Whole subdivision of illegal Mexicans where probably 80% have worked for me at one time or another and the whole kitchen staff of a restaurant I'm involved with now live there, and I'm not aware of any testing positive for it. Probably 250 living in 13 houses. Lol.

Yea, maybe that's it. Maybe not. Damn Mexicans. Amirite?
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I once had a family of 7 Mexicans try to rent a 2 bedroom, one bath, 650 square foot apartment from me. I turned them down.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Because he will tell the truth.

And the truth is the enemy of Donald J. Trump. He does everything he can to avoid it, doesn't he?
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I'll be honest. I knew you couldn't do it. Do you want to try again?

I'll give you an example of how it is done.

I don't think Donald J. Trump does everything he can to avoid the truth. I believe everything he says and does is to make himself look good and if anyone makes him look bad he attacks them personally.
 
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Behr said:
Okay, but when I said "I'm sure its because they're all a bunch of illegal Mexicans living 10 families in 500 square foot shack"... You said I nailed it.

Although its on a much smaller scale, I don't see it being an issue here. Whole subdivision of illegal Mexicans where probably 80% have worked for me at one time or another and the whole kitchen staff of a restaurant I'm involved with now live there, and I'm not aware of any testing positive for it. Probably 250 living in 13 houses. Lol.

Yea, maybe that's it. Maybe not. Damn Mexicans. Amirite?
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Nope. Not blaming them. Just saying it is a valid theory. Restaurants are not in full operation, and they are not likely in a position to be testing like a large manufacturer.

I agreed with your premise and not exact wording, by the way. The word illegal was superfluous to the conversation.
 
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