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Orangeburst said:
DC is a cesspool of incompetent buffoons and Biden is a part of it for 50 years.
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This is what I don't get, both sides talk about the direction this country has gone, yet by and large we are more than willing to vote down party lines and elect those who have been the most consistent entities in the perceived failures.

I will give credit to Republicans this last cycle, they at least went outside the establishment and tried something different.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I have noticed that the disease is no where near as potent as it seemed like it was at first.... I don’t know if it is weakening or warmer weather is helping but I have noticed the overwhelming majority of new cases has little to no symptoms and very very few require hospitalizations.
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The weak were going to appear to be hit first. And with its prevelancy its hit far more of the population than we knew.

I think this nation is far more saturated than we believe.

The only scary thing is if this makes return trips. But all we currently know now is that we dont know that it wont come back for a second wave. Which the media has construed as the second wave is coming and it will be worse.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
At a JBS USA plant in Greeley, Colorado, absenteeism is running as high as 30%. Before the pandemic, it was about 13%. The company is paying about 10% of the workforce -- people deemed vulnerable -- to stay home. Others aren’t coming in because they are sick.

So typically absenteeism runs about 13% according to the article and they are paying 10% of it's workforce to stay home due to them being deemed vulnerable by the company itself. So they are seeing about a 7% increase in call outs. That article headline is painting a picture that just isn't there.

Also from the article
The company has had more success at its plant in Souderton, Pennsylvania, which also reopened recently and is running “beyond expectations,” JBS said.

So out of 1500 that tested positive only 150 had symptoms of covid
About 1,500 workers came in for the first day of free testing, with about 10% of them showing symptoms of coronavirus, she said, adding that test results were expected within 48 hours. The plant has about 3,700 employees, and testing will continue for the next several days.

More numbers from the article paint a death rate of .004% which tell us maybe this Virus isn't as bad as we once thought
Conditions at U.S. meat plants contributed to increased risk of infections, and ultimately more than 4,900 workers fell ill, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The agency cited difficulty maintaining social distancing and adhering to the heightened cleaning and disinfection guidance among the factors that increased risks for workers. There were 20 deaths among employees as the virus spread to 115 meat plants across 19 states, data through late April showed.

So this essentially this article and its title were meant to stoke fear, however I took away some positives from it
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Are the "4900 worker fell ill" actually ill or just tested positive, since only 10% of those testing positive exhibited symptoms.... are there 490 people with symptoms or did 49,000 (of the 1/2 million) meat workers test positive?
 
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Orangeburst said:
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Fairly certain that not a single one of them would ever even dream of voting for Trump.
 
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hog88 said:
Food shortages are happening regardless of the media.
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I get it , but if the media hypes it like they do everything else the panic will be off the charts when you walk into a Walmart or grocery store and the canned foods are gone . This is one place I believe the government should be focused on more than anything else . Nothing short of a attack from another country would send this place over the edge like a disruption in the food chain . It’s all fun and games sitting at home watching Netflix , learning how to make beaded necklaces with your kids while sipping on wine , until the pantry is bare and there’s nowhere to get more . I know thats pointing out the obvious but I’m just sayin.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Pence says the task force is winding down. Trump gives reasons why.

Next day, Trump says task force continuing. May replace people.

Who can possibly vote for this schmuck again?
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You're literally going to cast a vote for a guy with dementia. He won't know where he is but will have the ability to blow stuff up worldwide
 
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0nelilreb said:
I get it , but if the media hypes it like they do everything else the panic will be off the charts when you walk into a Walmart or grocery store and the canned foods are gone . This is one place I believe the government should be focused on more than anything else . Nothing short of a attack from another country would send this place over the edge like a disruption in the food chain . It’s all fun and games sitting at home watching Netflix , learning how to make beaded necklaces with your kids while sipping on wine , until the pantry is bare and there’s nowhere to get more . I know that pointing out the obvious but I’m just sayin.
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That's when you will start to see a breakdown of civility on a level not seen before since the civil war.
 
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It would be very interesting to remove the "institutional" numbers from the general public numbers. How many of the positive tests and deaths in the last three weeks have been from Nursing Homes, long term care facilities and prisons?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is obviously not what the VA study showed... and the point is, the President should not be accusing epidemiologists of playing politics when they discourage the use of a drug. That is BS and speaks to what a petty and egocentric person he is. Trump sees everything through the narrow lens of politics... and only as it pertains to what he perceives to be his own best interest.
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1. Wasnt a study. Even septic says that .
2. It was information on people already on ventilators. Nothing works at that point apparently.
 
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NCFisher said:
Sure it is; when you state I'm misleading or misled, I challenge you to be specific, then rebut your argument. You're invited to state your case. If you need help, start with Carter Page.

it doesn't matter whether Trump and Amash were on opposite sides of his amendment. What does that have to do with his utter disregard for those agencies corruption, their launching baseless investigations into a campaign, president, entrapping and ruining 37 year veterans (Flynn), a known CIA asset/veteran/and FBI asset (Page), and run a rope a dope with foreign agents on Pappa? Are you saying Amash is that petty and vindictive, to let Trump staff hang over a policy disagreement with Trump?! Wooo...that's even worse than I stated it.

Further, it has nothing to do with Amash's support for impeachment, over three separate issues, from May 2017 (Comey memo), May 2019 (Mueller report), and Sept 2019 (Ukraine call).

It appears Amash has an impeach reflex re: Trump. TDS-Lite, perhaps.
Whatever the case, he looks good in the stall but don't run him on the track.
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There is nothing he can do as a legislature here. You expect him to take executive level powers to rid the agencies of corruption? Start investigations Congress doesnt have the power to run? Vote against all funding for them? Side with every anti Agency bill that comes across his desk no matter the further ramifications of said bill? Assume Trumps past, present, and continued innocence because other people were falsely sent to jail?
 
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