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clarksvol00 said:
It was kind of a rhetorical question. Regarding the 9th amendment, is the right not to wear a facemask a right retained by the people?

The point I'm trying to get to is that a lot of people are very angry about facemask mandates and see it as government overreach, but I haven't seen much discussion on whether people actually think the government can constitutionally mandate facemasks. Do we have a right to refuse to wear a facemask? Can the government require us to wear facemasks in public during a pandemic?
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I see the constitution as a limit on the government, not the people. All the "shall not be infringed upons" are on the government.

That being said I dont think it's the masks alone that are driving this. And so far I havent seen a constitutional push back against the masks themselves.

The constitutional questions come in regard to the right to assemble, the right against unusual punishment, the right to be innocent until proven guilty etc etc. Which have plenty of "shall not be infringed upon". Which I would say the government putting a requirement of masks on, to practice those rights is indeed an infringement.

There are places setting dumb requirements on opening. If this was what it started out as, just a true temporary shut down for 2 weeks, I dont think people would have an issue. It's easy to say ok 2 weeks makes sense for the healthcare side, we are given a direct timeline. But now it's gone far beyond a true temporary shutdown and its impacting lives across the nation far worse than the disease is
 
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"Don't forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? We do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn't do any testing we would have very few cases." - President Donald Trump, speaking at a campaign rally in Allentown, Pennsylvania on Thursday May 14, 2020, and apparently trying to blame the amount of testing being conducted on why the United States has so many cases of COVID-19.

This is pure genius on display, I tell you! With Trump's logic in mind, maybe if we didn't screen for cancer so darn much, we could cut down on the number of cancer patients to deal with?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
"Don't forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? We do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn't do any testing we would have very few cases." - President Donald Trump, speaking at a campaign rally in Allentown, Pennsylvania on Thursday May 14, 2020, and apparently trying to blame the amount of testing being conducted on why the United States has so many cases of COVID-19.

This is pure genius on display, I tell you! With Trump's logic in mind, maybe if we didn't screen for cancer so darn much, we could cut down on the number of cancer patients to deal with?
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Ummm... more testing would be one of the things that would lead to more confirmed cases.
 
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Zues1 said:
I find it quite amusing when the liberal left resort to " trailer park trash" comments when referring to conservatives. Meanwhile in the wonderful democratic paradises of NYC, San Fran, Detroit etc. democratic voters are stacked side by side by side in rat invested row houses with human feces on their front steps.
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To top it off they cry when ESPN says it about the Vol fans, then liberal Vol fans are smug enough to use the same joke as a rerun against conservatives like no one noticed it's not even funny anymore. You'd think they'd use fresh material but instead they plagiarize the joke like they were all mentored by Joe Biden.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Remind me again about how Biden isn't a progressive, democratic socialist

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I think he's making a mistake. He's trying to get Bernie's base on board. While Bernie did have some huge rallies, appealing to his base is appealing to a radical base. My gut tells me many Dems who truly stand by moderate values would prefer Trump over Socialism which is clearly the direction Biden is going.
 
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LouderVol said:
I see the constitution as a limit on the government, not the people. All the "shall not be infringed upons" are on the government.

That being said I dont think it's the masks alone that are driving this. And so far I havent seen a constitutional push back against the masks themselves.

The constitutional questions come in regard to the right to assemble, the right against unusual punishment, the right to be innocent until proven guilty etc etc. Which have plenty of "shall not be infringed upon". Which I would say the government putting a requirement of masks on, to practice those rights is indeed an infringement.

There are places setting dumb requirements on opening. If this was what it started out as, just a true temporary shut down for 2 weeks, I dont think people would have an issue. It's easy to say ok 2 weeks makes sense for the healthcare side, we are given a direct timeline. But now it's gone far beyond a true temporary shutdown and its impacting lives across the nation far worse than the disease is
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Since the courts have given government the power to make us wear clothes I guess that gives them the power to make us wear masks.
 
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