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Volsfaninva917 said:
Nope they want you to wear a homemade mask
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allvol123 said:
I dont this can. They basing on the idea that it helps prevent the spread of a virus and that isnt proven to be the case on any significant level nor is it proven that it isnt unhealthy.
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****. They have zero scientific evidence nothing even anecdotal that says women wearing tops prevents anything yet here we are.
 
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Fun Spot Orlando is now open. State also officially approved Universal's plan to open June 5th. Couple other amusement parks around the country open this weekend as well. All good news.
 
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DC_Vol said:
I think these stories are more anecdotal and they will need studies to determine how effective the treatment is (or isn’t).

For what it’s worth, I believe Costa Rica used HCQ as their primary treatment and found success with it.
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No one seems to want to address the studies done in 2004 and 2005.
These were lab studies and not done under these hodgepodge conditions. If a person is already sick enough that they need hospitalization I’m not sure it’s going to do much good. The virus is already set in. The pneumonia seems to be a hyper immune reaction.
Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread
 
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DC_Vol said:
I’ll repost your simplistic characterization for reference.



There is a cost / benefit that every person should consider on their own, but it’s not the binary options you present.

It’s a risk that one must accept and / or mitigate with their own personal choices.

What is deserving of ridicule in that?
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You know, I had actually typed a whole paragraph explaining how I had initially thought reopening the economy was the wrong decision but had come around to being wrong on that. Essentially, my revised thought is that the most effective way forward was to have social distancing at levels that keep hospitals near capacity. We generally weren’t close to capacity, meaning we overcorrected. There is a lot of nuance to unpack on that but the bottom line is that I fall into the group whose cost/benefit analysis was that some people will die, but by keeping hospitals at capacity it would prevent avoidable deaths from hospital overload. Not an especially easy to implement plan, but the bottom line was increased human contact.

I typed out a shorter version of this that was intended to avoid another tangential argument and I thought “this isn’t necessary, he’s reasonable and it’s not reasonable to think that you’re criticizing people solely for thinking the economy should reopen.”

... and here we are.

So I will back to what I said a few days ago:
Envision a Vinn Diagram.
Circle A: People who want the economy to bounce back at the expense of safety measures (human life).
Circle B: People who don’t want to wear masks.

Independently, each circle is just composed of people who made a prudential judgment. I don’t have a problem with either of them.

The issue I have is with the shared space.

Is that helpful?
 
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Roustabout said:
No one seems to want to address the studies done in 2004 and 2005.
These were lab studies and not done under these hodgepodge conditions. If a person is already sick enough that they need hospitalization I’m not sure it’s going to do much good. The virus is already set in. The pneumonia seems to be a hyper immune reaction.
Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread
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Were there any indications of in vivo success? These studies are in vitro and it seems that a lot of things look successful in vitro but ultimately aren't. Just asking because I have no idea.
 
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volfanhill said:
Anyone still think Cuomo has done a good job?
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He's presidential material just like Biden. Damn, the democrats just keep offering up one stellar person after another. The democratic debates showed so much promise with their candidates and then they follow it up with the democratic governors like Michigan, California, Illinois, NY, NJ and Va, telling the people how stupid they are.
You can't make this up, they brought it on themselves.
 
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