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A little off topic but following the Texas tangent. Any of you guys remember tropical storm Claudette? It was the week I first moved to Texas in July 1979 to take a job in Texas City which is in Galveston county to the south of Houston. The day I was supposed to start work, there was as much as 26 inches of rain in a 24-hour period and so much flooding it was a week before the waters receded enough to where I could start work. Welcome to Texas!
 
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A little off topic but following the Texas tangent. Any of you guys remember tropical storm Claudette? It was the week I first moved to Texas in July 1979 to take a job in Texas City which is in Galveston county to the south of Houston. The day I was supposed to start work, there was as much as 26 inches of rain in a 24-hour period and so much flooding it was a week before the waters receded enough to where I could start work. Welcome to Texas!
I have friends in Webster. Yall's 4 season are Monsoon, Hot n Humid, Oppresively Hot n Humid, Intermittent Hot n Humid.
 
I am in Charlotte NC. It Is still in phase 1 of reopening. Sc is pretty much wide open. Charlotte is on the state line.

I have never missed an hour of work. I have never worn a mask, not once since this started. I have a half dozen in my truck. Like many on here...I called this being a load of crap and a HUGE over reaction from the beginning. My post history reflects that...this is a dangerous virus for a fraction of 1% of the population. For the rest, no.

I have never had a flu shot. I will get no vaccine. The only vaccines I get are tetanus...because I like to cut and shoot holes in my body every few years, and step on nails regularly.

Democrats are garbage from the top down. This was always about Trump, from most angles. Hope this rioting being sanctioned and even encouraged by them...as well as them turning Judas on their own police officers, ends up with a conservative majority in both houses plus the White House. Just may save our republic for another generation or 2 if that happens.

Godspeed voters. Those who have witnessed the insanity of our peers better get out and vote come November.
 
I have a close friend who was a principal at a middle school. A good one, imo. There is so much politics (with teachers, parents, superintendents, school board, teacher's union )and cya in that job.

LOL my nephew when he was in elementary had his mom as head of PTA and they were discussing doing a carnival and raising money for new play sets.

I said I'll donate the money privately, and go ahead and do it......

No. NO. First obstacle well if that school gets a gift what about other schools? Is that fair.....we have to donate a percent to other schools as well, so......

Well, you can't do that.....you could have a carnival and independently do the play sets, but, can't just have someone donate.......

You would have thought they were fighting over money falling from the sky. Superintendent had to get involved.

I said what are the other schools and their parents doing to their schools that should affect my nephew's want to go play........it's a freaking gift, take it, shut up, make the kids happy. WTF is the problem?

Eventually put the playsets in. Eye opening to say the least.

Never would have guessed it would be so difficult.
 
I have friends in Webster. Yall's 4 season are Monsoon, Hot n Humid, Oppresively Hot n Humid, Intermittent Hot n Humid.
Webster is a wide spot between Hwy 3 and I-45 just west of Clear Lake City. I know it well. When I made that move in 1979, Clear Lake City (off NASA Road One) is where I rented before I bought a house closer to work.
 
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...how the devastation brought by the pandemic in 25 cities and regions compares with historical events. ---Demographer's these events mortality shocks--spikes in the total number of people dying not seen in the weeks before an event...and not lasting once it is over --- e.g., war, famine, bad flu season , natural disasters--

For example : A bad flu season in NYC: Jan. 2011-- 1.05x over normal mortality
Other examples given to crudely demonstrate the enormity of scale: --- The physical scrolling in the article communicated just as effectively as the written words.
You are looking at ALL "excess deaths", which I think is an accurate view of reality that avoids political counting shenanigans.

1.15x HIV/AIDS crisis in New York City, Sept. 1995 (worst month)
1.31x Chicago heat wave, July 1995
1.61x September 11th in New York City, Sept. 2001 (9/11 was one of the largest mortality shocks in recent American history--meaning 60% more people died that September than normal

1.99x 1957 flu in Santiago, Chile, Aug. 1957







2.00x Paris heat wave, Aug. 2003
2.42x Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, Aug. 2005





3.61x Spanish flu in Boston, Oct. 1918

3.97x Spanish flu in New York City, Oct. 1918















5x----Few places ever see excess deaths outside of famine/war
Guayas, Ecuador 5.50x-- COVID-19
New York City 5.83x --COVID-19













Bergamo, Italy 6.67x --COVID -19








7.27x Spanish flu in Philadelphia, Oct. 1918

Anticipating comments:

Bottom line: Mortality from all causes is stated relative to historical baselines. In New York in September 2001, mortality was 1.61 times the average monthly rate. The reason is for this is unambiguous-
--The mortality in New York in April was 5.83 times the historical average. What pray tell would one attribute this?
---At certain points coronavirus was outpacing heart disease and cancer deaths (the top 2 killers in the US). ---Moreover,
It's very hard to contract heart disease from a visit to the supermarket or a ride in a bus. It takes a lifetime of poor health choices. . The analysis is comparing increases in deaths from covid-19 to other, individual historical disasters. The idea isn't to "zoom in" to small geographical areas, it's just that individual disasters tend to have limited geographic scope.
The data does not have to be perfect and in fact, data from such a wide range of sources and locations never is. However, the trends and the point is clear, this is a serious situation and if you're concerned about your health, you should take it seriously especially in large cities NYC Metro has a unique perspective-IT WAS VERY REAL HERE--

My questions to the writer's:
--When dealing with an event like 9/11, where substantially all deaths took place in a single day, the shorter the frame the worse the event looks, because the impact on that day's mortality was huge. It you looked at a full year, it was minor, from a statistical point of view.
--Data is political in how your present it and what data you choose. By choosing the "city" level, the mortality appears much worse than if they had chosen the state-level.
This information lacks context. We know +30% of all U.S. deaths occurred in NY. If you had MI, NJ, MA, it is over 50% with a fraction of the total U.S. population. So these deaths are highly targeted. Outside of 10 states (?) states, this virus was a blip on the radar. What generated the out-sized response? I hear if this went unchecked the deaths would have soared to unacceptable levels. Is that true. Some of our worst responding states, FL, TX, etc., had very small excess mortality increases over a typical year. 'The costs are too high': the scientist who wants lockdown lifted faster

--Only some of these figures are labelled with the time span. This makes a huge difference. Are we comparing, say, Jan-May or just the week with the highest death total? That makes a huge difference.
--The point is by reducing the scale to where the problem is concentrated, by mathematical law you end up with it looking "worse". If we only use the confirmed cases by PCR of Covid-19 it has a mortality rate of around 5%. If you use serum studies that show around 10 cases for each one not found by PCR, that gives you a mortality rate of around 0.5%. If you look at ONLY those under 50, you end up with a mortality rate of 0.05% or even less. If you look at ONLY those under 19, you end up with a mortality rate of effectively zero.
--Counterargument is that in 2018 we had no deaths from Covid.

Bottom bottom line: We should have targeted the elderly and at-risk for protection. And masked up but continued to work with precautions. But we have no leadership in all levels of government AND --This virus generates profits for our media bigger than Bush's shock and awe. It sells and sells. Deaths from income inequality? Nobody cares --Medicare for all would save 68,000 lives per year and save 450 bill. But we can't have nice things. Divide and conquer--

Study: 'Medicare for All' would save 68,000 lives, $458B annually. "Medicare for All" would save the U.S. more than $450 billion annually, and the increased access to healthcare would save more than 68,000 lives, compared to the current system, according to an analysis published by The Lancet.
Medicare For All Would Save More Than 68,000 Lives And $450 Billion Every Year, According To New Study














 
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Seven day average dropped below my 5/27 projections. Current projections don't quite buy it but still see a fall from the plateau in the near future now.

Where we go from here is going to be very interesting.
 
I am in Charlotte NC. It Is still in phase 1 of reopening. Sc is pretty much wide open. Charlotte is on the state line.

I have never missed an hour of work. I have never worn a mask, not once since this started. I have a half dozen in my truck. Like many on here...I called this being a load of crap and a HUGE over reaction from the beginning. My post history reflects that...this is a dangerous virus for a fraction of 1% of the population. For the rest, no.

I have never had a flu shot. I will get no vaccine. The only vaccines I get are tetanus...because I like to cut and shoot holes in my body every few years, and step on nails regularly.

Democrats are garbage from the top down. This was always about Trump, from most angles. Hope this rioting being sanctioned and even encouraged by them...as well as them turning Judas on their own police officers, ends up with a conservative majority in both houses plus the White House. Just may save our republic for another generation or 2 if that happens.

Godspeed voters. Those who have witnessed the insanity of our peers better get out and vote come November.

I'm a MA resident now telecommuting from NC.

Perception of CV19 is like 3 blind men and an elephant. Having lived through it up there through early May, I can tell you it was wholly different up north than down south in most every respect. I understand why folks may call this a hoax and an overreaction, but all I can say is I never saw so many hearses in Boston in my life.

I hope there won't be a 2nd wave that also encompasses the south in the fall, but I suspect you'll see first hand what living in a pandemic is like.

I was dating a physician in Boston btw, and she had to isolate herself from others socially for obvious reasons. But she told me stories that would break any man's heart. I look forward to this disappearing, as I think it will before we have a cure.
 
I'm a MA resident now telecommuting from NC.

Perception of CV19 is like 3 blind men and an elephant. Having lived through it up there through early May, I can tell you it was wholly different up north than down south in most every respect. I understand why folks may call this a hoax and an overreaction, but all I can say is I never saw so many hearses in Boston in my life.

I hope there won't be a 2nd wave that also encompasses the south in the fall, but I suspect you'll see first hand what living in a pandemic is like.

I was dating a physician in Boston btw, and she had to isolate herself from others socially for obvious reasons. But she told me stories that would break any man's heart. I look forward to this disappearing, as I think it will before we have a cure.

Good points. There is definitely a divergence in views based on how bad the local experience has been.

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WTF!!
Will the thousands of people that are in the streets be used as an excuse to implement these population monitoring apps in every state?🤔 this is some CCP level bull shite. No constitutional right to refuse the vaccine...

 

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