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NurseGoodVol said:
If he would have flipped that 3rd sentence around and left the last out, It would have made sense.
I'm no one to talk about grammar, I'm lazy here.
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Yeah I write in extremely abbreviated sentences all day long...... I’m lucky I can put a sentence together at all
 
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LouderVol said:
As long as it's under standable I dont care about most of it. This was to the point where I am not quite sure what he is saying as far as if this is good or bad. Because it doesnt read as just delivering facts.

Lose/loose for some reason bothers the heck out of me though.
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I've read it several times and it still doesn't make sense.
 
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#62,803
LouderVol said:
Quarantining works. As would the contract tracking program.

Testing alone, for a group who thought Trump told people to drink fish tank cleaner and shove a bleached UV probe up their backside, falls well short of the mark.
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At this point, the President should announce that the goal is universal testing. Ask people to either get tested, or to self quarantine for 10 days.

No, you can't enforce it. But he ought to be promoting it. Would go a long way to curbing this thing. The constant defiance of the facts is just not helping.
 
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LouderVol said:
Nope/yup.
Flu testing doesnt stop the flu.

If he had said some type of contact tracking/control program that would make sense.

Testing in and of itself is only useful to the staticians.

Knowing how many points the opposing team has doesnt help the home teams defense during the game.
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These statements which I put in bold are just wrong. Testing helps to identify people who have the virus, but are asymptomatic. Knowing who has the virus, does help slow the spread of the virus to people who could die from it, as long as those people do self-quarantine.
 
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lawgator1 said:
At this point, the President should announce that the goal is universal testing. Ask people to either get tested, or to self quarantine for 10 days.

No, you can't enforce it. But he ought to be promoting it. Would go a long way to curbing this thing. The constant defiance of the facts is just not helping.
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What's your definition of universal testing?
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Not me, notice how their deaths took a nose dive?
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You were commenting on cases, not deaths.

They are testing like crazy but aren't finding that many infections.

Possible explanations for that include growing herd immunity effects, sustained deep social distancing, etc. But from a numbers game, it's very difficult to see that being due to nursing homes.
 
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#62,809
lawgator1 said:
At this point, the President should announce that the goal is universal testing. Ask people to either get tested, or to self quarantine for 10 days.

No, you can't enforce it. But he ought to be promoting it. Would go a long way to curbing this thing. The constant defiance of the facts is just not helping.
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Pretty sure most of this country has been quarantining for far more than 10 days.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You've been lied to, folks.

Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows
Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds

Independent study shows that Trump was right, the CDC, WHO, etc were wrong.

It aids in recovery, drastically lowers death rates, and shows no tendency to heart-related issues.

What would be the motive for telling people not to take the drug that would save them? What would be the motive to bar access to the drug that would pretty much declaw this "pandemic"? Combine that with... What would be the motive of Democrat mayors to force Covid+ patients into nursing homes with the population of highest susceptibility to death from the disease?

If it wasn't a manufactured crisis, it definitely looks like one they didn't want to go to waste.
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OMG. Get help.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
These statements which I put in bold are just wrong. Testing helps to identify people who have the virus, but are asymptomatic. Knowing who has the virus, does help slow the spread of the virus to people who could die from it, as long as those people do self-quarantine.
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Blah blah blah. Get down to the last of it and you are agreeing with me.

Testing alone, all that guy mentions, does jack.

Remember everyone thinks Europe is doing better than the US despite having done 50% fewer tests proportionally.
 
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PointGuard said:
Pretty sure? You’re wrong
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Well yeah. At this point not as many are. March was 3 months ago now. Georgia was the first to open up in May after shutting down late March or early April.

Going into the office or downtown for something it's clear most people are still at home.
 
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LouderVol said:
Blah blah blah. Get down to the last of it and you are agreeing with me.

Testing alone, all that guy mentions, does jack.

Remember everyone thinks Europe is doing better than the US despite having done 50% fewer tests proportionally.
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I agree that testing alone is not enough. Additional testing will only slow the spread of the virus if those people who test positive self-quarantine.
 
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Sea Ray said:
What's your definition of universal testing?
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Free test, easily accessible to testing sites, 24-48 hour turnaround on results. Open 7 days a week, and in the evenings.

LouderVol said:
Pretty sure most of this country has been quarantining for far more than 10 days.
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Most is not good enough. We need saturation. From what I see, the main causes of not getting tested are availability of testing, including work or transportation inhibit going to test site during hours they are open, and lack of confidence in need for testing, or thinking it has little value.

Those two things can be overcome with a bit of effort.
 
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TennTradition said:
You were commenting on cases, not deaths.

They are testing like crazy but aren't finding that many infections.

Possible explanations for that include growing herd immunity effects, sustained deep social distancing, etc. But from a numbers game, it's very difficult to see that being due to nursing homes.
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I was meaning deaths
 
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lawgator1 said:
Free test, easily accessible to testing sites, 24-48 hour turnaround on results. Open 7 days a week, and in the evenings.



Most is not good enough. We need saturation. From what I see, the main causes of not getting tested are availability of testing, including work or transportation inhibit going to test site during hours they are open, and lack of confidence in need for testing, or thinking it has little value.

Those two things can be overcome with a bit of effort.
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"A bit of effort"

We have done what, 34 million tests? Most in the world btw, by a long shot. And you believe we are struggling to cope with providing that many. But you think with "a bit of effort" we can get that up somewhere reasonably close to 330 million?

Lol.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
The NFL was wanting to cut down on preseason games before covid, now they got a reason. They were also wanting to cut down preseason rosters, it's all about saving money and nothing to do with Covid they're just hiding behind the virus because they're to chicken sh!t to do it on their own.
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Cut away. Too many preseason games anyway. This virus and the subsequent response is going to change a lot of things with sports, college attendance, business, and more. I don’t know where we are heading but I know it isn’t going to be like it was before.
 
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Sea Ray said:
One has to be realistic about this. You can't put together the infrastructure to get "universal testing" up for 330 million people in months. Let's live in the real world here.
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And I would also think that universal testing would all have to be concluded inside the incubation period to achieve the desired results.

Maybe 3 weeks. Which would mean we would need to do more testing in a single day than most countries have done total.

Because if person A tests the first day, but person Z tests the 50th day and is positive person A could then be infected.

If you get them all tested within a single incubation period you cut down your "cross contamination". And the smaller the testing timeline the better.

And then you have to consider LG wants results in two days tops. So not only would we have to have the tests, and the people, we would also have to have the testing equipment, and then ability to get the results out.

We are talking almost 16 million a day. That's a massive number for any type of infrastructure to handle. Physical testing, infection testing, then notification. And not just of positives. You would be handling all the negatives, 95%, which take just as much time but dont "help".

What's ironic, maybe. Is we have actually tested about 5% of the population. Which is about the percentage of positive we are seeing. So if we took a targeted testing approach, vs a universal, we could have theoretically already tested all the positives in the nation. Without "a bit of effort".

Now that obviously depends on perfectly catching everyone. But I enjoy the duality of the percentage testing equaling the percentage infected.
 
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