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luthervol said:
Everyone was aware that the system was showing signs of being sick. To me, the Trump nomination and election was like the doctor coming in and saying it's far worse than we expected. The things you expressed feeling yesterday are the things that millions upon millions felt the night Trump was elected and have felt to some degree every day since.
"I just want some sense of normalcy to return. Some shred of good news to brighten the day. But everywhere I look, it just seems chaos."
"It's hard to keep from breaking, and I'm not sure that I haven't."

I know many on here love to belittle "feelz". I've never been one of those.
Many on here took delight in "liberal tears" and showing the videos of people crying.
Millions were shocked, stunned, devastated, broken...and most of those were young people. People can mock and laugh at those reactions, but they were real. It was a devastating blow to America and one from which we haven't recovered. Nov. is a more critical election than most imagine....and that is simply the truth.
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This idea that millions upon millions felt this way after Trump was elected could easily be swung the other way to say millions upon millions would have felt the same had Hillary won. So what does that say about our system? I'm guessing you would have been okay with the millions upon millions unhappy with a President Hillary because it would be you getting what you want. I'm sorry, but your argument does not hold water for me because with the way our system is currently set, one side or the other HAS to win, and that in itself IS the sickness. You're reckoning of the sickness seems to be your side not winning, and it goes so very far beyond that. I think you're a good guy, for the most part, Luther, but you're part of the problem IMO. You see everything through a myopic partisan lens. And you use your "degrees and continuums" arguments to defend the left and villainize the right. Both sides are corrupt and sick, yet you choose to acknowledge only half the problem. And Biden is not a cure, just more of the sickness under a new name.

And the ills of this country, right now, go so far beyond politics. The Coronavirus and the current racial unrest, all of the chaos, it goes far beyond politics. I'm sorry, but if you think the feeling of losing an election compares to the pain and the suffering that people are legitimately going through, not because they didn't get their way, but through no fault of their own, it just doesn't compare. I'm not trying to belittle how you feel, but I just cannot fathom how dealing with Trump as POTUS compares to a global pandemic, quarantine, businesses being shutdown, people being separated from family, and people dying. I cannot fathom how having Trump as POTUS compares to racial strife, protests, riots, mass vandalism, looting, and even more people dying. The world is going to hell, and as much as you want to lay it at Trump's feet, as much as the left has used this as a political weapon to bludgeon Trump so they can win in November, I just don't see how it can truly be laid at his feet. We had the same racial unrest under Obama, and I'm not sure how you can pin a global pandemic on anyone. That's just insane.

I'm not going to defend Trump as a person, but for much of his Presidency, we had a thriving economy and record unemployment numbers. His being in office was not a net overall negative effect for every day life. You may not have liked him, but you cannot tell me your every day life was much different than it had been under previous Presidents. No different than how the average Republican felt when Obama was in office. All that to say you're playing Stretch Armstrong to compare Trump's election to what we are currently experiencing. Trump may be the biggest douche bag we've ever elected, I don't really know, but his election in no way compares to what we're currently experiencing, and if I'm being honest, which I always try to be, it's maddening to me that you would attempt to draw such an absurd, irresponsible comparison. We all know you don't like Trump. You have made that abundantly clear the last few years. But how, how Luther, do you compare his being elected to what this country is currently experiencing? I cannot wrap my brain around that. There is no viable comparison. Seriously, you just gave me a massive headache with the inanity of such a comparison. It makes zero sense.
 
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Rocky_Top_Vol13 said:
First off teachers who do virtual learning are working a lot harder than teachers in the classroom if they're doing it right. My wife is a teacher so if they are doing things like she did, they deserve to get paid like everyone else. Secondly, one of the major problems with the educational system here in the US is that parents look at it like free daycare. Its not the school's responsibility to care of children, its the parents'.
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I know plenty of teachers that would agree that it is not as difficult as the classroom.

Secondly, day care.. yes it is a form of day care. Your problem isnt with that. Your problem is with the parents that think school replaces the need for parenting at home. The timing of school and a majority of work shifts coincide. Who is to care for the kids? Grandma? If that's not available, who's money pays for childcare? Not having school in session disproportionately harms the lower class student and parents. Meals have already been mentioned but it's also about child care outside of school while the parent works. Not all work is remote.

Parents arent trained on elementary education. Social and physical presence with peers is paramount to the development of the kids.
 
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#63,859
825VOL said:
Get back to us when it is not longer “nearing capacity” but over capacity and no longer “may soon request” but have requested and a statement that it is all due to COVID. Until then it is just more fear BS to get you excited
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So you wont be alarmed until morgues are full and hospitals have refrigerated trucks for bodies in the parking lot? Do you not see how dumb that is?
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
So you wont be alarmed until morgues are full and hospitals have refrigerated trucks for bodies in the parking lot? Do you not see how dumb that is?
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Why would you use morgue capacity as a metric? Houston, the 4th largest city, only has a 200 capacity for the entire county of 4 million people. Even the 30 deaths caused by the hurricane overwhelmed the system. Do you not see how dumb that is?
 
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Orangeburst said:
Why would you use morgue capacity as a metric? Houston, the 4th largest city, only has a 200 capacity for the entire county of 4 million people. Even the 30 deaths caused by the hurricane overwhelmed the system. Do you not see how dumb that is?
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He just posted an attention seeking headline and LG jumped on the band wagon without so much as a 30 second google search .
 
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Weezer said:
This idea that millions upon millions felt this way after Trump was elected could easily be swung the other way to say millions upon millions would have felt the same had Hillary won. So what does that say about our system? I'm guessing you would have been okay with the millions upon millions unhappy with a President Hillary because it would be you getting what you want. I'm sorry, but your argument does not hold water for me because with the way our system is currently set, one side or the other HAS to win, and that in itself IS the sickness. You're reckoning of the sickness seems to be your side not winning, and it goes so very far beyond that. I think you're a good guy, for the most part, Luther, but you're part of the problem IMO. You see everything through a myopic partisan lens. And you use your "degrees and continuums" arguments to defend the left and villainize the right. Both sides are corrupt and sick, yet you choose to acknowledge only half the problem. And Biden is not a cure, just more of the sickness under a new name.

And the ills of this country, right now, go so far beyond politics. The Coronavirus and the current racial unrest, all of the chaos, it goes far beyond politics. I'm sorry, but if you think the feeling of losing an election compares to the pain and the suffering that people are legitimately going through, not because they didn't get their way, but through no fault of their own, it just doesn't compare. I'm not trying to belittle how you feel, but I just cannot fathom how dealing with Trump as POTUS compares to a global pandemic, quarantine, businesses being shutdown, people being separated from family, and people dying. I cannot fathom how having Trump as POTUS compares to racial strife, protests, riots, mass vandalism, looting, and even more people dying. The world is going to hell, and as much as you want to lay it at Trump's feet, as much as the left has used this as a political weapon to bludgeon Trump so they can win in November, I just don't see how it can truly be laid at his feet. We had the same racial unrest under Obama, and I'm not sure how you can pin a global pandemic on anyone. That's just insane.

I'm not going to defend Trump as a person, but for much of his Presidency, we had a thriving economy and record unemployment numbers. His being in office was not a net overall negative effect for every day life. You may not have liked him, but you cannot tell me your every day life was much different than it had been under previous Presidents. No different than how the average Republican felt when Obama was in office. All that to say you're playing Stretch Armstrong to compare Trump's election to what we are currently experiencing. Trump may be the biggest douche bag we've ever elected, I don't really know, but his election in no way compares to what we're currently experiencing, and if I'm being honest, which I always try to be, it's maddening to me that you would attempt to draw such an absurd, irresponsible comparison. We all know you don't like Trump. You have made that abundantly clear the last few years. But how, how Luther, do you compare his being elected to what this country is currently experiencing? I cannot wrap my brain around that. There is no viable comparison. Seriously, you just gave me a massive headache with the inanity of such a comparison. It makes zero sense.
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I'm in no way saying that Trump winning is worse than your business going under, losing your house, or your grand-mom dying from Covid.
What I'm saying is that Trump winning changed the way people viewed the world. (I'm talking basically about the 35 and under crowd) It changed what they thought they new and understood about the world around them and human nature in general. It suddenly turned into a world that they did not recognize, a much darker and depressing place in which to live. It's in that sense that I compare the two. Trump winning was harder to process than Covid causing things to shut down - that they can understand and process. A loved one getting cancer is horrible, but it is something that fits into their understanding of the world. A parent losing their job is devastating but it is something that can be understood (a causes b and b causes c). Trump winning took the world as they knew it and turned it upside down. In that way it's similar to what we are experiencing now.

Like it or not, agree or disagree, that was the instantly changed reality for millions. (no other republican candidate would have had that effect - it was and is a Trump thing)
 
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Orangeburst said:
Why would you use morgue capacity as a metric? Houston, the 4th largest city, only has a 200 capacity for the entire county of 4 million people. Even the 30 deaths caused by the hurricane overwhelmed the system. Do you not see how dumb that is?
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So the morgues are overran because they're too small. This is the same dumb logic as saying we should stop testing so we have fewer cases.
 
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