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hog88 said:
You are taking it better than I would.
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If my boss, who bartended at the same place before buying it 8 years ago, who just weathered a 3 month shutdown, who just had his first child 2 weeks ago, who has paid the executive chef, bar manager, and myself through all of this can take it like he has, virtually most of us can take a chill pill.
 
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theFallGuy said:
it's painfully funny watching a bunch of elitists degrade anyone talking about hydroxychoroquine's potential use because "Orange Man Bad".
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Has zero to do with "orange man bad" and everything to do with "orange man has no clue what he is actually talking about".

Do you need a picture to help you understand? Will having it come from Twitter make it more relatable to you in your self-professed ignorance?

 
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DinkinFlicka said:
I think the shotgun approach sucks. I feel like we were being careful. Most other businesses had positive tests within their staff in the past month. We did not. We were doing things the right way. I don't agree with them shutting *us* down specifically, no. I get why they did it though. Staff and patrons are getting sick left and right. I knew dozens of people who did, and Knoxville ain't that big.

If you want to have an actual discussion, I'm happy to. You're going to have to cease your dickweed assumptions first, however. It's not doing either of us any favors.
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Ive often thought recently the kinds of jobs I wouldn't want to have during a situation like this. Bar tending would be on the list.
 
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allvol123 said:
Your attempt at a earnest meet in the middle conversation falls short with terms like "dickweed".

I understand that was your passive aggressive childlike attempt at a truce.

Regardless, you are essentially ok with them feeding you another shtt sandwich. Hopefully your staff is as well taken care of as you during this time of little to no delivery of services or goods. But it cant be sustained,.
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I'm not a sugarcoater. However, I've been giving you opportunities to clarify points beyond one baseless assumption after the other. You're being a dickweed. Sorry if you think that's more childish than dancing on the hardships of my industry right now.

Am I ok with it? That's a yes and no. I see why it happened. I p much expected it. I'm grateful to be taken care of. My staff is alright. We got through 3 months of this. We'll put up with another 2 weeks.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Ive often thought recently the kinds of jobs I wouldn't want to have during a situation like this. Bar tending would be on the list.
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Some are doing alright. I work at a place where my guys can pay their bills in 3 shifts or less.

Some struggle at other places though.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
I'm not a sugarcoater. However, I've been giving you opportunities to clarify points beyond one baseless assumption after the other. You're being a dickweed. Sorry if you think that's more childish than dancing on the hardships of my industry right now.
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Perhaps you missed the "I hate it" comment or somehow confuse that term with dancing on your hardships. Who knows.

They shut you down. If you are ok with that, then you should have shut down on your own already.
 
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allvol123 said:
Perhaps you missed the "I hate it" comment or somehow confuse that term with dancing on your hardships. Who knows.

They shut you down. If you are ok with that, then you should have shut down on your own already.
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I literally just told you I disagreed with them shutting us down.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
You say nothing in your life has changed, yet you post here everyday complaining. Complaining about people the CHOOSE to wear mask. Why does that bother you? Do you complain when your neighbor wears a condom?
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I think you all look like morons, and it's not effective but I have said from the beginning if you want to wear a mask wear one. Hell if you want to wear a full hazmat suit have at it
 
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GAVol said:
I apologize then for dismissing your evidence as anecdotal. I thought you meant you’d seen a video on social media or something.

Still, it’s hard for me to buy that when Doctors routinely wear masks for hours on end while performing surgery.
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A non-mask advocate Herman Cain died today. He developed COVID 29 and was hospitalized after attending Trump’s Tulsa Rally. Trump didn’t know him did he?

RIP Herman Cain. Died when you didn’t need to just because you wanted to please a num num
 
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BeardedVol said:
Has zero to do with "orange man bad" and everything to do with "orange man has no clue what he is actually talking about".

Do you need a picture to help you understand? Will having it come from Twitter make it more relatable to you in your self-professed ignorance?

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Regardless, I think if one is laying in the ICU on a vent, that person isn't going to deny the Dr. administering it to them.

Would you or any of the other anti-hydroxi proponents take a vaccine without knowing long term side effects before you would take the HCQ?

Also, everything that I have read about HCQ is that it isn't effective taken as a standalone. Trials are still underway for the HCQ cocktail.

Disclaimer: not picking a fight with you, been there done that.
 
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Osterholm: Americans will be living with the coronavirus for decades

Michael Osterholm: Everyone is looking at the vaccine as being a light switch: on or off. And I look at it as a rheostat, that’s going to take a long time, from turning it on from its darkest position to a lightest position. If you’re anticipating a light switch, you’re going to be concerned, confused, and in some cases very disappointed in what it might look like in those first days to months with a vaccine.

MarketWatch: I saw a piece in The Atlantic this week and I thought they positioned it well. They described it as the beginning of the end.

Osterholm: It won’t be. We will be dealing with this virus forever. Effective and safe vaccines and hopefully ones with some durability will be very important, even critical tools, in fighting it. But the whole world is going to be experiencing COVID-19 ‘til the end of time. We’re not going to be vaccinating our way out of this to eight-plus billion people in the world right now. And if we don’t get durable immunity, we’re potentially looking at revaccination on a routine basis, if we can do that. We’ve really got to come to grips with actually living with this virus, for at least my lifetime, and at the same time, it doesn’t mean we can’t do a lot about it.

MarketWatch: Do you think we’re going to see some of these vaccines fail in clinical studies?

Osterholm: One of the challenges we have is: what do we mean by fail? What’s the definition? Some people right now have a view that any vaccine that isn’t like the measles vaccine is going to be a challenge, meaning they’ve got to work 93% to 98% of the time. I don’t think there’s any sense that that’s going to happen with this vaccine. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t going to be an effective vaccine at 50%, 60% or 70%. We have to keep watching for safety signals. We have to make sure that over time we can assure the public with open and transparent data that: This is what you can expect in terms of reactions, this is what might have any long-term complications.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Some are doing alright. I work at a place where my guys can pay their bills in 3 shifts or less.

Some struggle at other places though.
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Im talking from a contact standpoint.

Its good they can get by during a crazy time. Good thing is, it won't be that way forever.

Not that our business wasn't already good, but we have more work to do right now than at any other time since we started.
 
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allvol123 said:
Yea, I think you are more than ok with it.
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If they are blatantly ignoring public health guidance with regard to having healthy employees they should absolutely be closed by the state. There are multiple diseases for which restaurant workers are excluded for pre-COVID. They should be shut down if they ignore those as well.
 
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MontyPython said:
Osterholm: Americans will be living with the coronavirus for decades

Michael Osterholm: Everyone is looking at the vaccine as being a light switch: on or off. And I look at it as a rheostat, that’s going to take a long time, from turning it on from its darkest position to a lightest position. If you’re anticipating a light switch, you’re going to be concerned, confused, and in some cases very disappointed in what it might look like in those first days to months with a vaccine.

MarketWatch: I saw a piece in The Atlantic this week and I thought they positioned it well. They described it as the beginning of the end.

Osterholm: It won’t be. We will be dealing with this virus forever. Effective and safe vaccines and hopefully ones with some durability will be very important, even critical tools, in fighting it. But the whole world is going to be experiencing COVID-19 ‘til the end of time. We’re not going to be vaccinating our way out of this to eight-plus billion people in the world right now. And if we don’t get durable immunity, we’re potentially looking at revaccination on a routine basis, if we can do that. We’ve really got to come to grips with actually living with this virus, for at least my lifetime, and at the same time, it doesn’t mean we can’t do a lot about it.

MarketWatch: Do you think we’re going to see some of these vaccines fail in clinical studies?

Osterholm: One of the challenges we have is: what do we mean by fail? What’s the definition? Some people right now have a view that any vaccine that isn’t like the measles vaccine is going to be a challenge, meaning they’ve got to work 93% to 98% of the time. I don’t think there’s any sense that that’s going to happen with this vaccine. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t going to be an effective vaccine at 50%, 60% or 70%. We have to keep watching for safety signals. We have to make sure that over time we can assure the public with open and transparent data that: This is what you can expect in terms of reactions, this is what might have any long-term complications.
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Well you gotta go with a guy using "forever" and "till the end of time".
 
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allvol123 said:
Yea, I think you are more than ok with it.
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Well, here's what I actually think:

I hope this teaches a lot of these chodes downtown what can happen if they don't take precautions. You may think this is just a product of Kincannon whining but the truth is, when someone tests positive, they have to include where they work and in some cases where they've been. The BoH has access to this data and when you see that 12 people at Radius and 13 people at Maple Hall test positive in a month long window, it dawns on you that the downtown bars (who hold most of Knoxville's licenses that are affected by this shutdown) aren't giving a **** or trying to keep it clean. At least, that's all you can assume from their perspective. So, this is what happens.

I hope the management and ownership wakes up and realizes it is actually up to them to stay open.
 
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