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Sea Ray said:
You're quick to put the President into a corner and call him a liar. There's no lying here because it's a guess on his part. It's like calling your weatherman a liar if he predicted rain yesterday and it was dry at your house. I don't understand people like you. Who would call the weatherman a liar?
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Per your analogy, Trump's federal agency advising him on the *science-based* models are telling him the chance of rain is basically 0%. Instead of presenting the TRUTH to Americans (that science indicates it's not gonna rain), Trump once again creates an alternate reality that it is, in fact, very possible it will rain. If you don't get how this is irresponsible, I can't help you.

As Donald shrugged off about 1,000+ Americans dying per day, "it is what it is".

No, Mr. Alternate Universe Weatherman, your incompetence, inaction and deceit made it what it is.
 
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evillawyer said:
Well, Florida was down to "just" 180 deaths today. Time to give deathsantis a cookie?

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It was a bad day. It happens. Peyton had days where he threw more INTs than TDs. Let's look at the big picture:

The US avg of deaths per million population is 496. Florida is well below that, 369. And arguably, FL due to all of their seniors, have the most vulnerable population. I think what the Gov has done there is miraculous.

If you're really into this death number, why aren't you praising Hawaii, Montana, Wyoming and Alaska?

United States Coronavirus: 5,099,704 Cases and 164,170 Deaths - Worldometer
 
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MontyPython said:
Per your analogy, Trump's federal agency advising him on the *science-based* models are telling him the chance of rain is basically 0%. Instead of presenting the TRUTH to Americans (that science indicates it's not gonna rain), Trump once again creates an alternate reality that it is, in fact, very possible it will rain. If you don't get how this is irresponsible, I can't help you.

As Donald shrugged off about 1,000+ Americans dying per day, "it is what it is".

No, Mr. Alternate Universe Weatherman, your incompetence, inaction and deceit made it what it is.
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We all understand you hate Trump. I apologize but I just don't hate anyone on that level. I don't harbor such negative energy. I don't know what you're going to do with all that after the election. Whatever
 
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Mick said:
Not at all. Let me put it on a continuum for you. On one side you have self and on the other you have society. When I say "We are in this together", "We" is society. When I hear "me" "my" and "I" that isn't "We"
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So where on the continuum do these two things lie and which side is arguing which?
1. Wait until it’s your grandma that dies.
2. What about all of the jobs lost, increased suicides, businesses that will never recover, increased addictions, families that can’t eat, and so on?
You just blew up your own narrative. Well done.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Oddly enough, I agree. Our testing strategy is so inept and incoherent that it’s pointless to get tested in many cases because by the time you get the information back it’s irrelevant. Regardless, the US represents 4.25% of the world population and 23% of the world covid deaths, so what do you suggest to turn these embarrassing numbers around?
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That’s not a good correlation. I’m not saying we’ve done a great job with the virus but who has? These stats were from a couple days ago but it shows that in proper context we aren’t way worse than everyone else as some claim. It would be nice if we were way better given that we do have more resources than some of these places but it’s very possible that there’s little that can be done. A good friend of mine has a son that plays football at Duke. They’ve done literally everything possible to avoid spreading and they’ve gone from 2 to 30 kids test positive. Staying in their room 23 hours a day, wearing masks anytime they’re out of their room, and social distancing shouldn’t allow for that but it happened. Unfortunately, we might just have to ride this thing out. We can try to distance and wear masks as those are simple enough but the shut downs aren’t the answer.
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11 alive, local Atlanta news, posted 2 stories this morning. First was on the bike rally at Sturgis, and of course everybody is gonna die because they can call most of them trumpers. They're all gonna take the virus, kill grandma, cause they're selfish, and meh trump. About an hour later they posted a second story, about a bike rally from some black group travelling city to city in protest of police brutality. Not as large of course as Sturgis, but still a crowd, and they gather crowds where they're going. Wanna guess how much the corona was mentioned in the later story? How many people were commenting about them being selfish, and gonna kill grandma? Here's the thing, some of us do take this crap seriously, but are sincerely tired of the political crap behind it, like these two stories. Either the virus can spread in all crowds, or that's all bull crap. You can't preach, "stay at home, can't go to church, can't go on vacation", then turn around and cheer mass gatherings of protesters, and try to claim that doesn't spread anything. It doesn't work that way, period. It's not that some of aren't concerned, we're tired of the hypocrisy. Can't have it both ways, because you know, science.
 
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Mick said:
It would have been best if Someone wouldn't have opened his mouth about it at least until there was enough research, which we still don't have. Mentioning it as being tested wouldn't have been bad. He mentioned others as well but he didn't tout them.
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Have you ever gone back and actually read what Trump said or just jumped all over the media’s version? He said there are some signs, strong signs, that it could help and yes, he was very optimistic and seemed to have a gut instinct about it that he himself followed, but he also said to talk to your doctor. Dems in here talk about Biden’s mental issues being blown out of proportion but literally everything Trump says gets blown out of proportion by the media. And that’s why the drug ended up being taken off the FDA approval list. Had the media not blown it up like they did that wouldn’t have happened. Trump drives Dems and MSM so crazy that they literally can’t help it though. The problem is that it’s doing real damage now. Look at that Portland mayor the other night talking about how burning down a building with people in it will help Trump. Why would that thought even enter your mind? I think the murder is sufficient enough to encourage people not to burn others alive. That kind of thinking, the actions taken by extremists and the subsequent support of those actions by the Dems is why Trump will be re-elected. The majority of this country doesn’t want the sh*t show that you see in Portland, NYC, and other blue cities.
 
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Sea Ray said:
A vaccine. Until that comes out, it's something we need to work through. The problem with shutdowns and quarantines is that the treatment is worse than the disease
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Agreed on the second part but if you think a vaccine will make this go away then I believe you are going to be quite disappointed.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
That’s not a good correlation. I’m not saying we’ve done a great job with the virus but who has? These stats were from a couple days ago but it shows that in proper context we aren’t way worse than everyone else as some claim. It would be nice if we were way better given that we do have more resources than some of these places but it’s very possible that there’s little that can be done. A good friend of mine has a son that plays football at Duke. They’ve done literally everything possible to avoid spreading and they’ve gone from 2 to 30 kids test positive. Staying in their room 23 hours a day, wearing masks anytime they’re out of their room, and social distancing shouldn’t allow for that but it happened. Unfortunately, we might just have to ride this thing out. We can try to distance and wear masks as those are simple enough but the shut downs aren’t the answer.
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I want to know how Germany only has 11 per.
 
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Stew Cook said:
We'll have to wait and see what Kushner says about it. Can't let FDA politics impede Operation Warp Speed.
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Wait, I thought that you all were bitching that Trump didn’t have a plan. Now you see there is a plan and then you bitch more. It really isn’t surprising at all. I just enjoy pointing it out.
 
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