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[Orangeburst]

If you want to provide more information about the mutation I could help inform you, but freaking out about the vaccine suddenly being ineffective isn’t driven by science, that I do know.

Who's freaking out other than your long winded denial that you dont know?

 

[OHvol40]

Who's freaking out other than your long winded denial that you dont know?

You assumed an ineffective vaccine and oppression, I just pointed out why your assumptions aren’t rooted in fact.

 

[Orangeburst]

You assumed an ineffective vaccine and oppression, I just pointed out why your assumptions aren’t rooted in fact.

Back to the original question.

Will the recent vaxs be effective with the latest UK strain? You are on record that they are. Yes or No?

 

[OHvol40]

Back to the original question.

Will the recent vaxs be effective with the latest UK strain? You are on record that they are. Yes or No?

What is the mutation?

 

[RavinDave]

Well our dumbazz daughter in law has it. She went to a wedding last weekend and so far she makes 9 people that caught it there. But the dumb thing is she knew (and son knew) people were starting to test positive, started getting the sniffles Wednesday but still came over to our house for dinner on Thursday. So now me and the wife are exposed.

Well I guess we'll find out if your immunity lasted more than 6 months... if your suspicions are correct that you and your wife endured it once already, was it in February?

 

[Orangeburst]

What is the mutation?

More effing denial of a straight question, which you have really already answered. In other words outta ur ass.

 

[OHvol40]

More effing denial of a straight question, which you have really already answered. In other words outta ur ass.

So you don’t know what the mutation is?

 

[hog88]

Well I guess we'll find out if your immunity lasted more than 6 months... if your suspicions are correct that you and your wife endured it once already, was it in February?

Yep we will

 

[Orangeburst]

So you don’t know what the mutation is?

I am not a medical expert...but for someone in your profession who claims what you have acclaimed, is nothing but malpractice.
See, if you had said the word "probable", you would of had room to manuever. Such a deflector.

 

[OHvol40]

I am not a medical expert...but for someone in your profession who claims what you have acclaimed, is nothing but malpractice.
See, if you had said the word "probable", you would of had room to manuever. Such a deflector.

What about this statement is an absolute?

“Because to affect the efficacy of the vaccine the mutation would have to alter the “spike” protein that your immune system uses to identify the virus. Last I heard there have been over 40,000 mutations identified and none of them have altered this... so unless this particular mutation is different then the vaccine is still effective.

As far as the lockdown, there are more reasons why a mutation would cause concern. It could be a more contagious strain, it could cause more severe symptoms... I don’t know what the reasoning is in this instance.”

Listen, bubba, I will go on record saying I’m 99% sure that this mutation does not render the antibodies you gain from either infection or vaccine ineffective. Almost always those types of mutations are a cumulative effect after the virus has a harder time infecting people (once the population at large has antibodies). This cumulative effect also typically takes years to evolve. If you want to continue to throw out “there goes the vaccine” statements based on some misguided principle you have, be my guest. What I’m telling you is that you’re very, very likely to be wrong so you should probably settle down.

 

[carlos86]

The only major country that hasn’t banned flights or travel to the UK is the United States.

 

[Orangeburst]

What about this statement is an absolute?

“Because to affect the efficacy of the vaccine the mutation would have to alter the “spike” protein that your immune system uses to identify the virus. Last I heard there have been over 40,000 mutations identified and none of them have altered this... so unless this particular mutation is different then the vaccine is still effective.

As far as the lockdown, there are more reasons why a mutation would cause concern. It could be a more contagious strain, it could cause more severe symptoms... I don’t know what the reasoning is in this instance.”

Listen, bubba, I will go on record saying I’m 99% sure that this mutation does not render the antibodies you gain from either infection or vaccine ineffective. Almost always those types of mutations are a cumulative effect after the virus has a harder time infecting people (once the population at large has antibodies). This cumulative effect also typically takes years to evolve. If you want to continue to throw out “there goes the vaccine” statements based on some misguided principle you have, be my guest. What I’m telling you is that you’re very, very likely to be wrong so you should probably settle down.

Keep digging that hole..At least you backed off to 99% from 100%.

There have been thousands of mutations identified, not one would affect the vaccine so far.

 

[AM64]

There have been thousands of mutations identified, not one would affect the vaccine so far.

Perhaps it's been covered here before, but apparently Moderna through prior work and a heads up from a Chinese researcher had a workable virus ready for testing in early January. I'd always wondered why after the first round of a coronavirus (SARS) nobody had a "carrier" (my term for lack of medical knowledge) ready and waiting for the specific "ingredient". Seemed like we should have been there with yearly flu vaccines and viral research, and apparently that was more or less the case. This is just one of many articles about how Moderna got there. Another story I read previously said a Chinese researcher released the necessary info to Moderna before the Chinese were admitting human to human transmission.

Moderna designed its coronavirus vaccine in 2 days — here’s how

 

[AM64]

Well I guess we'll find out if your immunity lasted more than 6 months... if your suspicions are correct that you and your wife endured it once already, was it in February?

Hog may need the swine flu variant. EFG

 

[Weezy]

Perhaps it's been covered here before, but apparently Moderna through prior work and a heads up from a Chinese researcher had a workable virus ready for testing in early January. I'd always wondered why after the first round of a coronavirus (SARS) nobody had a "carrier" (my term for lack of medical knowledge) ready and waiting for the specific "ingredient". Seemed like we should have been there with yearly flu vaccines and viral research, and apparently that was more or less the case. This is just one of many articles about how Moderna got there. Another story I read previously said a Chinese researcher released the necessary info to Moderna before the Chinese were admitting human to human transmission.

Moderna designed its coronavirus vaccine in 2 days — here’s how

I imagine when there's this much money at stake and there's been a lot of money spent on this, you are going to be doing all you can to gather information as quickly as possible because first place means everything.

 

[lostsheep]

They want the money because they have mismanaged their cities and states for years.

You’re simply repeating Trump propaganda.
Start thinking for yourself.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

You’re simply repeating Trump propaganda.
Start thinking for yourself.

So, you are saying the states and cities did not mismanage the money?

 

[DC_Vol]

I'm 100% on the "it's the individuals" responsibility to protect themselves. If me and the wife get it It's our fault for having them over for dinner.

She's still a dumbazz though.

If you worked for me I’d can you for raising such a dumazz daughter.

 

[hUTch2002]

There have been thousands of mutations identified, not one would affect the vaccine so far.

Give it time. This is never ending. Let’s just lock down forever.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

So, you are saying the states and cities did not mismanage the money?

The taxes there were too low.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

The taxes there were too low.

LOL

 

[volfanhill]

If you worked for me I’d can you for raising such a dumazz daughter.

It's his in law

 

[headhunter15]

WTH is going on in the U.K. with this new variant? Countries are beginning to halt flights to and from the U.K.. That’s probably too late.

 

[Electric Orange]

The sky is falling...

 

[DC_Vol]

It's his in law

Oh. I better make that a son who married a dumbazz.