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Velo Vol said:
You presented the wrong data to show how prevalent serious illness is in America compared to other countries.
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No I presented how well equipped we are at preventing death from people who have contracted the virus. At the end of the day that's the only data point that matters. Every country is different. From a population density standpoint how do you compare? Impossible. From the number of people tested stand point how do you compare? You can't. So who has it and how many died is what matters. By the way if you look at the way you are asking we are still doing better then many of our contemporaries.
 
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Last week we had folks here reporting the news that Tennessee was at an all time high in C19 cases and that this number was tops in the nation as a percentage of population. Specifically the state peaked at well over 10K, 11,383 on Dec 20th. Well those numbers have been more than cut in half ever since. The numbers have been under 5000 every day since Christmas. Where is this news? Why isn't this being mentioned? Tennessee cut its numbers dramatically in two weeks and they did it w/o shutting down businesses. The state to the north, KY, did shut down indoor dining for 3 weeks and their numbers didn't improve as quickly as Tennessee's.

To you alarmists: If you're going to give us the bad news it helps your credibility if you also give the good news. Case loads from 11K to 3-4K is a huge improvement. Give credit where credit's due
 
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Sea Ray said:
Last week we had folks here reporting the news that Tennessee was at an all time high in C19 cases and that this number was tops in the nation as a percentage of population. Specifically the state peaked at well over 10K, 11,383 on Dec 20th. Well those numbers have been more than cut in half ever since. The numbers have been under 5000 every day since Christmas. Where is this news? Why isn't this being mentioned? Tennessee cut its numbers dramatically in two weeks and they did it w/o shutting down businesses. The state to the north, KY, did shut down indoor dining for 3 weeks and their numbers didn't improve as quickly as Tennessee's.

To you alarmists: If you're going to give us the bad news it helps your credibility if you also give the good news. Case loads from 11K to 3-4K is a huge improvement. Give credit where credit's due
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I calculated that we might round the curve in 30-60 days around the first week of December. This is certainly good news, and although I am admittedly cautiously optimistic, we can all agree that this is fantastic news. Hospital resources are very thin.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Spill. How was it created Professor?
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A complete answer is a long story. Short story is that scientists were funded by our government and other governments, to research corona virus variants. A faction among the researchers advocated for developing strains which were more infectious and lethal. Their argument was that such variants would eventually mutate in nature, so artificial development was necessary in order to prepare vaccines for them. Development of more active strains was strongly resisted by another faction of the scientists, but the group advocating for such research won out and procured funding. The effort involved international cooperation, and yes, the Wuhan lab was part of it. There were two methods of developing the new strains, (1) artificial gene splicing and (2) accelerating mutations by lining up host(bat) cages with controlled transmission along the line, to produce high numbers of monitored transmissions. Mutations were isolated and studied. Results were shared in papers circulated among them. One that I read was so filled with technical language of that field that much of it was incomprehensible to me, but it was obvious that yes, they were gene splicing the corona virus to produce new, more active strains. Of course, after the virus got out, the program went black.
 
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volfanhill said:
Ahh you looked to be stupid with your Q nonsense. Now you wish to remove all doubt with some anti vaxer crap.
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I have a family member who is PhD virologist. Has developed two vaccines in the veterinary field. Coronavirus vaccines have been around in the vet world for a while. Said, they don’t work well. Efficacy is poor. Also said that would not allow own mother to take this vaccine. One, hasty development and poor testing. Two, false sense of security.

Ask yourself why therapeutics that could lower hospitalization by 70% are not being given warp speed? Even when Azar said it was available and ready and needed to happen. The therapeutics are there and aren’t being prescribed. Why?

Why? Why?
Monoclonal antibody treatments could cut COVID-19 hospitalizations significantly — but doctors aren't using their full supply
 
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Roustabout said:
I have a family member who is PhD virologist. Has developed two vaccines in the veterinary field. Coronavirus vaccines have been around in the vet world for a while. Said, they don’t work well. Efficacy is poor. Also said that would not allow own mother to take this vaccine. One, hasty development and poor testing. Two, false sense of security.

Ask yourself why therapeutics that could lower hospitalization by 70% are not being given warp speed? Even when Azar said it was available and ready and needed to happen. The therapeutics are there and aren’t being prescribed. Why?

Why? Why?
Monoclonal antibody treatments could cut COVID-19 hospitalizations significantly — but doctors aren't using their full supply
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I haven’t read up on the subject, but why do people say poor testing? My understanding is the vaccine went through the same testing protocols that we normally do for vaccines, is this not the case?
 
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lostsheep said:
Easy answer: we have the worst president in the history of the nation who has no idea how to deal with a national crisis during a pandemic.
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You think Biden will out do Obama? I guess he was well trained... but give him a change. Soetoro's shoes will be pretty hard to fill in that regard.

Oh wait.. I just heard Biden will be getting a Nobel for choosing a black Indian woman Communistslut for his VP.
 
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rjd970 said:
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MontyPython said:
Tennessee is finally #1 in something!




While acknowledging Tennessee as "ground zero for a surge in sickness," Gov. Bill Lee on Sunday night tightened statewide restrictions on social gatherings for the next 30 days but stopped short of a mask mandate. The state ranked No. 1 in the country for COVID-19 infections in the past week, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention adjusted for population.

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Tennessee has cut those numbers in half and then some. Why aren't you here to give updated graphs and show us where the state stands now? It would likely show about -60% from two weeks ago. You appear to be a negative Nelly and only show up to whine and moan about life rather than give the complete picture
 
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Excellent data and analysis here. Tennessee is in the list of the fastest falling case count and has not cracked the top ten at all for deaths per 1000 cases.

It is important to note that testing and reporting in several states is currently minimized or suspended due to the holidays and will return to normal early next week. This may result in a sudden spike in cases.

Coronavirus in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count
 
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Interesting that where cases are lower and staying low are Vermont, Hawaii, Guam, US Virgin Islands and Northern Mariana Islands. Notice a pattern? 4 of the 5 are islands and Vermont is also very isolated. It's a different ballgame when you're an island.
 
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Sea Ray said:
Interesting that where cases are lower and staying low are Vermont, Hawaii, Guam, US Virgin Islands and Northern Mariana Islands. Notice a pattern? 4 of the 5 are islands and Vermont is also very isolated. It's a different ballgame when you're an island.
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Guam should go ahead and tip over and start over again.
 
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ndubvols said:
I haven’t read up on the subject, but why do people say poor testing? My understanding is the vaccine went through the same testing protocols that we normally do for vaccines, is this not the case?
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No. It normally takes a few years to develop, test, and approve a vaccine. Add to that mRNA vaccines have never been approved for human use. They created a new type of vaccine never approved for human use and bypassed standard development and testing procedures to get it out fast.

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https://www.ifpma.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/IFPMA-ComplexJourney-2019_FINAL.pdf
 
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