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McDad said:
What would you estimate the probability to be in the article you shared?
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It's a qualitative article that concludes with more questions. Another fun way research works. I wonder sometimes why I terminated in this field.

"The increasing evidence and understanding of SARS‐CoV‐2's impact on the CNS raises key questions on the impact for risk of later life cognitive decline, AD, and other dementia. This program of studies aims to better understand the long‐term consequences that may impact the brain, cognition, and functioning—including the underlying biology that may contribute to AD and other dementias. "
 
#87,202
#87,202
AshG said:
It's a qualitative article that concludes with more questions. Another fun way research works. I wonder sometimes why I terminated in this field.

"The increasing evidence and understanding of SARS‐CoV‐2's impact on the CNS raises key questions on the impact for risk of later life cognitive decline, AD, and other dementia. This program of studies aims to better understand the long‐term consequences that may impact the brain, cognition, and functioning—including the underlying biology that may contribute to AD and other dementias. "
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What's your estimate?...be conservative in your guess.
 
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#87,205
AshG said:
There's not enough data yet. I can't extrapolate a quantitative number from qualitative review.
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There must be a lot of unknowns, circumstances, and parameters which profoundly effect the probability. Hence the use of "conditional phrases".

If the data are not sufficient and probability widely varied, it's a shame the article only focused on the scary parts.
 
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AshG said:
It's a qualitative article that concludes with more questions. Another fun way research works. I wonder sometimes why I terminated in this field.

"The increasing evidence and understanding of SARS‐CoV‐2's impact on the CNS raises key questions on the impact for risk of later life cognitive decline, AD, and other dementia. This program of studies aims to better understand the long‐term consequences that may impact the brain, cognition, and functioning—including the underlying biology that may contribute to AD and other dementias. "
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Being that this is a novel virus, much of the research on its effects are going to be of the copy cat nature. Meaning, viruses are known to cause illness and a multitude of complications, both short term and long term. So at least some current research on COVID is modeled after previous research on other viruses. I’ve gotten into the habit of looking back pre-Covid and seeing if other viruses had similar research and findings on them. For instance, a quick Google search shows that influenza also has effects on the central nervous system and has been linked in severe cases to dementia. So, coronavirus has caused problems that a virus would cause. I also cringe a bit whenever I see “long-term” used in a news article or research related to coronavirus, as it would be very difficult to determine any long term (meaning life long, not measured in months) effects a year into its existence. Im sure some will be found, but at this point it is more speculation (hence the mays, mights, coulds and possiby’s) than knowledge.

Anyway....
 
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McDad said:
There must be a lot of unknowns, circumstances, and parameters which profoundly effect the probability. Hence the use of "conditional phrases".

If the data are not sufficient and probability widely varied, it's a shame the article only focused on the scary parts.
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Exactly right. If the incidence is extremely rare then it's nothing more than an alarmist piece of work
 
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Husband of my wife's friend noticed he couldn't task his whiskey last night. Also couldn't smell very well. Went and got a rapid test and it came back negative. Lol.
 
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newyorkvol said:
Being that this is a novel virus, much of the research on its effects are going to be of the copy cat nature. Meaning, viruses are known to cause illness and a multitude of complications, both short term and long term. So at least some current research on COVID is modeled after previous research on other viruses. I’ve gotten into the habit of looking back pre-Covid and seeing if other viruses had similar research and findings on them. For instance, a quick Google search shows that influenza also has effects on the central nervous system and has been linked in severe cases to dementia. So, coronavirus has caused problems that a virus would cause. I also cringe a bit whenever I see “long-term” used in a news article or research related to coronavirus, as it would be very difficult to determine any long term (meaning life long, not measured in months) effects a year into its existence. Im sure some will be found, but at this point it is more speculation (hence the mays, mights, coulds and possiby’s) than knowledge.

Anyway....
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I have seen quite a few of these articles talking about "long Covid" patients, quantifying how many there are and all the things that are going to happen to them. It's pretty amazing that they've figured out all the long term effects of this after only 9 months.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
So - In the month of December I had a fever for the first three weeks. I felt awful. I was weak, tired, headache, fatigue, etc. I just knew I had it. Well, it turns out it was a sinus infection. I went to urgent care to get tested and the NP wrote a prescription. Finally, by Christmas, I had started feeling better. I workout hard, like four to five hours a day, so I am always in a state of pain and tiredness. On New Years day, I slept until 5 PM. I had bodyaches and congestion and fatigue. I just figured, I had not killed the sinus infection yet and hadn't rested enough from the gym. So, today, I call the urgent care and ask the NP if she would give me some more medicine. Due to insurance, I had to get tested again and sure enough, it was a positive. I don't feel nearly as bad as I did for the month of December, though. I don't feel great, but I don't think feel like I have the flu, either. I have never ran a fever this time. So odd.
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You workout 4-5 hours a day? Wtf? You an MMA fighter? Water polo? Triathlete?
 
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AshG said:
It's not absurdity. I stand by your son's school - the science is sound. Welcome to my wheelhouse.

Following multiple studies and a large-scale study performed in multiple phases, it has been determined that participating in performing arts such as band, choir, and orchestra are safe so long as specific guidelines are followed.
  • Musicians must be at least six feet apart, with the exception being that there be nine feet of space in front of trombone players
  • Musicians can rehearse in a facility for no more than an hour, with at least an hour afterward to allow aerosol dispersal
  • Masks with holes for mouthpieces are acceptable for rehearsals, but a regular mask should be used for the remainder of the school day.
This is the information the colleges, universities, and most school systems are operating under.

Please reconsider depriving your child of this opportunity because you don't understand the science. Most students pulled from a performing ensemble never return.











CBDNA COVID-19 Response Committee Report – CBDNA – College Band Directors National Association

https://www.nfhs.org/articles/third...ore-scientific-data-for-return-to-activities/
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Oh my........

"The science is real."

Are you a doctor? Because I believe you told an actual doctor just now that he doesnt know medical science as well as you do.
 
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AshG said:
One of the concerns with Covid is that the body loses its immunity rapidly for some reason. That means herd immunity will eventually wear off.

This is a nasty little bugger that's going to take a lot of research to crack.
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So we should stay on lockdown until we crack the nut?
 
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evillawyer said:
It makes zero sense from a public health perspective. They're the most likely spreaders given their work and living conditions. They should be among the first to get it. But hey, racists gotta be racist.
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If they are the most likely spreaders, then what does that say about restaurant cooks and servers? We may as well ban take out orders.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So we should stay on lockdown until we crack the nut?
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I've actually spoken against that on multiple occasions. I have chosen for the classes I teach to be in person this spring. My children are both in person at school. With proper precautions and disciplined behavior, we can be more open than we currently are.
 
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