Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[Velo Vol]

The crew behind this is an interesting lot. The opposition lawyers are going to be licking their chops for the opportunity to release the opinions of former co-workers, supervisors, subordinates, and medical school faculty.

They could just cite this:

 

[Velo Vol]

Not a lawyer but when your lawsuit claims that covid-19 vaccinations are similar to the torture American POWs suffered during the Korean War don’t think it is going to have any standing. But again not a lawyer.

As a legal matter, that's kind of thing doesn't matter for standing.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

They have nearly 15 active cases per 100,000 people. It's completely out of control.

 

[Velo Vol]

But we don't know if it's safe!!1!

 

[newyorkvol]

Exposure to SARS-CoV-2 generates T-cell memory in the absence of a detectable viral infection | Nature Communications

“We also demonstrate the size and quality of the memory T-cell pool of COVID-19 patients are larger and better than those of close contacts. However, the proliferation capacity, size and quality of T-cell responses in close contacts are readily distinguishable from healthy donors, suggesting close contacts are able to gain T-cell immunity against SARS-CoV-2 despite lacking a detectable infection.”

 

[MAD]

Makes sense for us getting back control of the house and senate in 2022 and getting Biden out in 2024.

 

[Sea Ray]

Makes sense for us getting back control of the house and senate in 2022 and getting Biden out in 2024.

I have an issue with this Democrat's view of Republicans. Yes, they did kinda flip toward vaccines in the past week but they didn't flip from a position where it's a hoax. Their position for months has been "it's a individual decision. Respect each American's decision on this."

Now they're just flat out calling on all Americans to get vaccinated. But they're falling short of the Dems who are going to the point of namecalling. Anyone who opts not to get vaccinated is being called everything from selfish to stupid and all kinds of other names in the book. I hope Republicans don't ever stoop to that

 

[MAD]

I have an issue with this Democrat's view of Republicans. Yes, they did kinda flip toward vaccines in the past week but they didn't flip from a position where it's a hoax. Their position for months has been "it's a individual decision. Respect each American's decision on this."

Now they're just flat out calling on all Americans to get vaccinated. But they're falling short of the Dems who are going to the point of namecalling. Anyone who opts not to get vaccinated is being called everything from selfish to stupid and all kinds of other names in the book. I hope Republicans don't ever stoop to that

Hope you are right.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Makes sense for us getting back control of the house and senate in 2022 and getting Biden out in 2024.

I think the DC Beltway Republicans may be wavering, but I don't see most of the people against this jab being too easily flipped based on these few examples. Even Trump has come out pushing it and that floated like a lead balloon. If anything, I'm seeing people on Main St dig in deeper.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Hope you are right.

Well that entire "hoax" thing was intentionally taken out of context anyways from the start. Most of the people referring to the virus as a "hoax" were mainly talking about the reaction to the virus and all of these extreme measures taken. Sure, you did have a handful of people actually saying it didn't exist, but 90-95% of the people using the term "hoax" were specifically talking about the fearporn and hysteria being drummed up around the entire situation.

 

[MAD]

Well that entire "hoax" thing was intentionally taken out of context anyways from the start. Most of the people referring to the virus as a "hoax" were mainly talking about the reaction to the virus and all of these extreme measures taken. Sure, you did have a handful of people actually saying it didn't exist, but 90-95% of the people using the term "hoax" were specifically talking about the fearporn and hysteria being drummed up around the entire situation.

That makes sense, hope we move forward and not backwards anymore.

 

[MAD]

My Governor just said this….




DeSantis 2024. Mark it down.

 

[volfanhill]

White House weighs pushing masks as COVID cases increase

 

[volinbham]

But we don't know if it's safe!!1!

Has that caucus suggested it isn't safe or that people shouldn't get vaccinated?

 

[MAD]

White House weighs pushing masks as COVID cases increase

I thought it was each states decision

 

[volfanhill]

I thought it was each states decision

It is. But what the CDC recommends is what the CDC recommends. Many red states will ignore it. I am pissed bc it means many companies will make vaccinated employees wear masks again. Which makes no fing sense. And the CDC, if they do recommend it, is stupid.

 

[MAD]

To Vaccinate or Not? Vermont, w highest concentration of vaccinated people, and Alabama, state w lowest. In last 7 days Alabama recorded 901 COVID cases; Vt recorded 8. Alabama has 65 hospital admissions daily. Vermont? Zero. Alabama 41 deaths last week. Vermont? Zero.

 

[C/O]

To Vaccinate or Not? Vermont, w highest concentration of vaccinated people, and Alabama, state w lowest. In last 7 days Alabama recorded 901 COVID cases; Vt recorded 8. Alabama has 65 hospital admissions daily. Vermont? Zero. Alabama 41 deaths last week. Vermont? Zero.

I just relocated to Vermont in the last few weeks. Can confirm they take the virus very seriously up here.

 

[LouderVol]

To Vaccinate or Not? Vermont, w highest concentration of vaccinated people, and Alabama, state w lowest. In last 7 days Alabama recorded 901 COVID cases; Vt recorded 8. Alabama has 65 hospital admissions daily. Vermont? Zero. Alabama 41 deaths last week. Vermont? Zero.

Vermont also has an eighth the population of Alabama, and is far wealthier. You probably see a similar break down for most drugs.

Vermont population density, 68 people per square mile, alabama 94 people per square mile.

 

[Persian Vol]

Vermont also has an eighth the population of Alabama, and is far wealthier. You probably see a similar break down for most drugs.

Vermont population density, 68 people per square mile, alabama 94 people per square mile.

After accounting for population difference, that’s still a 14-1 difference in cases which is quite significant.

 

[Wireless1]

I think the DC Beltway Republicans may be wavering, but I don't see most of the people against this jab being too easily flipped based on these few examples. Even Trump has come out pushing it and that floated like a lead balloon. If anything, I'm seeing people on Main St dig in deeper.

The reason people are not getting vaccinated falls into multiple categories, and addressing the concerns of one group frequently discourages another group- "Trump says get stuck."
Transparency is the only hope (or the downfall.) Most of the people it appears (because we don't have trustworthy information) that have not been stuck fall into the same economic group whether rising through the group or falling, and that group does not have the greatest trust in the government because the government has stuck it to them, at least in their minds it has.

 

[allvol123]

The reason people are not getting vaccinated falls into multiple categories, and addressing the concerns of one group frequently discourages another group- "Trump says get stuck."
Transparency is the only hope (or the downfall.) Most of the people it appears (because we don't have trustworthy information) that have not been stuck fall into the same economic group whether rising through the group or falling, and that group does not have the greatest trust in the government because the government has stuck it to them, at least in their minds it has.

I would give the media huge blame also. Becoming the unprofessional entity we see now, has contributed to this.

 

[Wireless1]

After accounting for population difference, that’s still a 14-1 difference in cases which is quite significant.

This week, could we find a week during the last 3 months where the numbers are closer or even reversed?
On July 9 Vermont's average went up 250%, while Alabama went down 100% on July 5...the hard numbers are 2 to 5, and 250 to 121... buts still it makes a heck of a headline. At the worst VT had an average of 180 new cases so by any standard they are considered an outlier. Now if they had been doing something very different than the rest of the country and had a different curve, then we could investigate and if possible use those practices. But they didn't do anything different, that could be done in CA, or AL

 

[MAD]

Vermont also has an eighth the population of Alabama, and is far wealthier. You probably see a similar break down for most drugs.

Vermont population density, 68 people per square mile, alabama 94 people per square mile.

Wealthier shouldn’t matter, the vaccine is free.

 

[utvolpj]

Wealthier shouldn’t matter, the vaccine is free.

Money makes services more accessible