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#100,601
I pointed this out before, but who are all of these people that are getting tested and why? We seem to have thousands of positive tests each day in each and every state and yet only have a handful of hospitalizations and deaths due to covid.
 
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#100,602
Septic said:
There's been high mask compliance? Anyhow it's a tool, like handwashing and hygiene and social distancing - individually they don't work as well as when they are all done together.
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So mask efficacy compared between locales with different compliance isnt overwhelming?

Makes your peer reviewed postings inconsequential in real world, I guess.
 
#100,603
#100,603
Here is what I am trying to understand. When I got sick in January and ended up in the hospital with double pneumonia and dehydration all my blood work matched covid patients. I basically had covid. Just wouldn’t test positive. So I was given it antibiotics and pills to swallow in the hospital and when I left after four days.
I feel like when you go to the doctor and test positive for the flu they prescribe you medicine. When you go to the doctor and test positive for strep. They prescribe you medicine. You go to the doctor and test positive for covid. They tell you to go home and then go to the hospital if you can’t breathe. Why can’t we give medicine when they test positive?
 
#100,605
#100,605
Rasputin_Vol said:
Like depending on a chain link fence to stop mosquitos...
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Like I said, if you can look at me with a straight face and tell me that you wouldn't rather have a masked hacking covid+ person as they passed by you than a non masked, then you're an idiot or a liar.
 
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McDad said:
So mask efficacy compared between locales with different compliance isnt overwhelming?

Makes your peer reviewed postings inconsequential in real world, I guess.
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Do yo have evidence of high compliant locales that did worse than low compliant locales or are you just playing coy?
 
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#100,609
Septic said:
Do yo have evidence of high compliant locales that did worse than low compliant locales or are you just playing coy?
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There is evidence contrasting higher and lower compliance. Whether the higher areas meet your threshold of high compliance, that's up to you.

The comparisons I'm mentioning have been posted in this thread.
 
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#100,610
Septic said:
Wearing a mask to keep someone else crud off of you is just another way of creating a crud barrier, which is the entire point of masks.

Logic indeed.
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Who are masks protecting? If you wear one is it there to protect you or others? We were told others all along but not the wearer. I’m curious if that’s your belief as well.
 
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#100,611
Rasputin_Vol said:
I'm on the fence on that but I can certainly see your point. I just think that many of these state and local officials have taken things too far. I would say that the mask mandates are one thing, but what they did last year with closing certain businesses and ruining the economy is just over the top and needed the state to step in to correct it.
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I completely agree. But that's the benefit of the decision-makers being closer to the people: the closer they are to their constituents, the easier they are to influence or remove. You have more influence with your mayor or county commissioner than you do with the governor.
 
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#100,612
McDad said:
So mask efficacy compared between locales with different compliance isnt overwhelming?

Makes your peer reviewed postings inconsequential in real world, I guess.
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Remember if the cases go down in a jurisdiction with mask mandates, it's because of the mandates.
If the cases go up, it's because people aren't wearing their masks.
 
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Septic said:
Like I said, if you can look at me with a straight face and tell me that you wouldn't rather have a masked hacking covid+ person as they passed by you than a non masked, then you're an idiot or a liar.
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If I was that worried about it, I would be out here protecting myself the best way I could.

But, you are talking to a guy that has to use port-o-johns on construction sites on the regular and has to work around asbestos, confined spaces and high voltage. My tolerance to risk is a bit higher than most peoples.
 
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bamawriter said:
I completely agree. But that's the benefit of the decision-makers being closer to the people: the closer they are to their constituents, the easier they are to influence or remove. You have more influence with your mayor or county commissioner than you do with the governor.
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I think there is room for middle ground and pragmatism. But I think the pendulum swung so far in many of these locales in one direction, that it was inevitable that there was going to be an equal and opposite pushback in the other direction from the state level.
 
#100,622
#100,622
I for one have no intention of ever wearing a mask again and if a business demands it, I'll politely decline and they can keep their seat and I can keep my money.
 
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VolStrom said:
That only depends on how much backbone your state governor and legislature have. Be a pussy and be treated like a pussy.
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With school closings, it doesn't matter. The Unions are going to walk out and all the DOE has to do is cut off funds to non-compliant states to force the issue.

And before you say "can't" or "won't" happen, just think about what this Admin has done in the last six months and think about the power they think they'll have during a national lockdown
 
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