Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[McDad]

Not contradictory. The first group are people who got false positive test results. They got tested. The second group are people who got sick, think it was covid (but it wasn't), and recovered without ever getting tested.

Does data support you on (3) and (4)? I.e., if you had it and failed to generate a lasting response, does that mean a vaccine will have the same effect (i.e., won't generate a lasting immunity).

On 4, vaccine immunity may fade, but the vaccine will, by definition, occur after they've been infected. I've seen zero data to say that the previously infected who get vaxxed are in the same or a worse position than if they had not gotten vaxxed. Lots of data saying they're in a better position (see the recent CDC study looking at this issue with people in KY).

Contradictory in that if a positive antibody test is required for one's "immunity pass", then there is not a group which didn't get tested and received a pass. or, if we allow a verbal statement of immunity to qualify for a pass without testing, your 1st point is inconsequential.

 

[McDad]

Not contradictory. The first group are people who got false positive test results. They got tested. The second group are people who got sick, think it was covid (but it wasn't), and recovered without ever getting tested.

Does data support you on (3) and (4)? I.e., if you had it and failed to generate a lasting response, does that mean a vaccine will have the same effect (i.e., won't generate a lasting immunity).

On 4, vaccine immunity may fade, but the vaccine will, by definition, occur after they've been infected. I've seen zero data to say that the previously infected who get vaxxed are in the same or a worse position than if they had not gotten vaxxed. Lots of data saying they're in a better position (see the recent CDC study looking at this issue with people in KY).

3 and 4 is based on what we know about general vaccine efficacy. With respect to covid, it could be years before the data are conclusive.

 

[AshG]

Just got an email update from my new school; we just moved from voluntary masking to mandatory masking on campus. Blech.

Cases in Maryland are rising too quickly. We better not end up remote, I'll lose my mind (what little of it is left).

 

[evillawyer]

Vaccine passports are a search of your medical history.

.Gov requiring private business to check vaccine passports is no different than .gov mandating a private business exclude customers of a certain race, ethnicity or sexual orientation.

Government is not doing the search. Plus, even if there were a search by the government, it just has to be "reasonable" under the 4th Amendment (no "unreasonable" search and seizures allowed).

 

[MAD]

Florida Church Hosts Vaccination Clinic After Multiple Members Die From COVID-19

I guess they realized dead members can't pay tithes.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Government is not doing the search. Plus, even if there were a search by the government, it just has to be "reasonable" under the 4th Amendment (no "unreasonable" search and seizures allowed).

Roger Stone says "hi". Be sure & let the CNN cameras roll full speed at 5:00am ..... k.

 

[DuckInAPen]

Florida Church Hosts Vaccination Clinic After Multiple Members Die From COVID-19

I guess they realized dead members can't pay tithes.

That seems to me an unfairly cynical take -- this same church offered a vaccine clinic in March with over 800 takers.

 

[Wireless1]

Problem with people claiming natural immunity from previously testing positive/thinking they have it are numerous:

(1) They could have had a false positive test.
(2) They may think they had it without ever getting tested (and be wrong).
(3) They may have had it, but didn't generate lasting immunity to it.
(4) They may have had it, generated a substantial response, but that response has now faded.

(5) My body, my choice.

 

[evillawyer]

(5) My body, my choice.

No one's forcing you to get vaccinated. But don't expect Western Sizzler to have to let you dine in either.

 

[LouderVol]

Who determines how much lives are worth?

How about the individual?

 

[Wireless1]

Just got an email update from my new school; we just moved from voluntary masking to mandatory masking on campus. Blech.

Cases in Maryland are rising too quickly. We better not end up remote, I'll lose my mind (what little of it is left).

So how do you teach Band with a mask on? AIR that's one of your responsibilities.

 

[AshG]

So how do you teach Band with a mask on? AIR that's one of your responsibilities.

We have multiple mitigation tools techniques, and there are musician masks that form a seal beyond the mouthpiece to prevent aerosol leakage.

Plus, my new band hall has a modern HEPA air exchange system that pulls exhaust up and does multiple full exchanges per hour. Even without Covid, my allergies are going to love that rehearsal space.

One to of that, I use a lavaliere mic and speaker system so I don't have to raise my voice. It really helps with vocal clarity while masked.

 

[Wireless1]

No one's forcing you to get vaccinated. But don't expect Western Sizzler to have to let you dine in either.

So can the Sizzler, ask if you have AIDS and if you're not on Sizzler approved medication decline service?

 

[AshG]

So can the Sizzler, ask if you have AIDS and if you're not on Sizzler approved medication decline service?

Private company. Don't like the policy? Buy a majority stake and change it.

 

[MG1968]

Florida Church Hosts Vaccination Clinic After Multiple Members Die From COVID-19

I guess they realized dead members can't pay tithes.

If they can vote, they can tithe.

 

[LouderVol]

What civil liberty is being being violated by vaccine passes?

Liberty.....requiring an ID is racist, so a passport is that much more.
If the passes dont restrict anything what is their purpose?

 

[lawgator1]

So can the Sizzler, ask if you have AIDS and if you're not on Sizzler approved medication decline service?

Do you understand the difference between AIDS and Covid and how they are transmitted????

I mean, maybe your own experience at Sizzler is different than my own.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

No one's forcing you to get vaccinated. But don't expect Western Sizzler to have to let you dine in either.

I am dying to eat at western sizzler.
Said no one ever!

 

[Electric Orange]

 

[LouderVol]

Do you understand the difference between AIDS and Covid and how they are transmitted????

I mean, maybe your own experience at Sizzler is different than my own.

Never seen anyone get cut at a restaurant?

 

[Jxn Vol]

Do you understand the difference between AIDS and Covid and how they are transmitted????

I mean, maybe your own experience at Sizzler is different than my own.

Ok. Substitute Hep A, B, or C. Or TB.

 

[evillawyer]

Siri, What does "first world problem" mean?

 

[walkenvol]

I am dying to eat at western sizzler.
Said no one ever!

All the folks around Jasper want to know why they don’t count?

 

[walkenvol]

So how do you teach Band with a mask on? AIR that's one of your responsibilities.

Guitar hero on Xbox?

 

[MAD]

Do you understand the difference between AIDS and Covid and how they are transmitted????

I mean, maybe your own experience at Sizzler is different than my own.

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