Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[MAD]

What is the point of articles like this when the last paragraph says?



Clearly it states they don’t know if the booster was given before or after they contracted COVID, therefore they can’t conclude if it’s effective or not.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[DuckInAPen]

I am worried about my daughter. She's ten. Over the last several months she's become apprehensive. To the point where at brunch yesterday she wouldn't tell the server what she wanted to eat, I asked her after a long silence is everything ok, and she burst into tears. I have never seen her like this. After she calmed down she told us she got too nervous to talk. Earlier that day we had the convo with her that she had to go back to wearing masks in school on Monday. We are signing her up for someone to talk to. Not good.

I'm deeply sorry to read of your daughter's distress, volfanhill. May God grant her and your family peace and strength to overcome this difficulty.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Wow

 

[OHvol40]

Like I told slice earlier. They need to stop calling this a vaccine. This is a therapeutic. It doesn't prevent you from getting or transmitting COVID. At best, what it does is maybe suppress some of the symptoms.

This is an irresponsible and ignorant take, just in case anyone paying attention isn’t an expert in viruses or vaccines.

I never heard anyone here advocate for the flu shot being classified as a therapeutic rather than a vaccine before the politicization process of covid. Wonder why? I know it isn’t because the definition of vaccine is amorphous.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

This is an irresponsible and ignorant take, just in case anyone paying attention isn’t an expert in viruses or vaccines.

I never heard anyone here advocate for the flu shot being classified as a therapeutic rather than a vaccine before the politicization process of covid. Wonder why? I know it isn’t because the definition of vaccine is amorphous.

The flu shot is a classic vaccine. These therapeutics are not like a classic vaccine because they don't have a weakened version of the virus.

 

[Orangeslice13]

OK, so I think I see what the issue is. They have been calling this a "vaccine". That is incorrect. For the sake of clarity, and for credibility, wouldn't it be better to correctly call this a "therapeutic"? I say that because you wouldn't have to deal with "breakthrough" cases and having to explain them. For example...

14 Israelis Have Caught COVID-19 Even After Booster Shot, Some Hospitalized | ZeroHedge

Possibly.
Covid isn’t the only therapeutic vaccine that requires boosters

Edit. Looks like it’s already been covered.

 

[Orangeslice13]

You guys really need to go full disclosure on these things.

yes 14 people who got the 3rd shot got sick with Covid within days of the booster. Incubation period puts all 14 as infected before the booster.
there are plenty of reasons for concern. Like the fact that they are not positive on what the 3rd shot will do. They are taking an educated guess.
You don’t have to bias the numbers with half truths.

 

[Orangeslice13]

But you also have things like this going on in Israel

COVID: 90% of patients treated with new Israeli drug discharged in 5 days

They will take risks that everyone is scared of here. And they are going at it from all sides.
Maybe we’re right, maybe they are

 

[Velo Vol]

The flu shot is a classic vaccine. These therapeutics are not like a classic vaccine because they don't have a weakened version of the virus.

COVID vaccines are far more effective than flu shots. 90% versus ~40%.

 

[ButchPlz]

What % of COVID tests are affected by this?

Lab Alert: Changes to CDC RT-PCR for SARS-CoV-2 Testing

 

[allvol123]

Hallelujah. All for defunding federal agencies.

 

[ENGRVOL]

What % of COVID tests are affected by this?

Lab Alert: Changes to CDC RT-PCR for SARS-CoV-2 Testing

Very few now. Initially this was the only test available early in the pandemics when commercial testing platforms already in use weren’t able to test for covid especially in March and April of 2020. Now they are able to test and most healthcare centers have gone back to using them and many use these multiplex testing platforms that tests for other things in addition to covid such as influenza and other respiratory viruses at the same time.

 

[davethevol]

 

[ButchPlz]

Hallelujah. All for defunding federal agencies.

Hell, I'm for defunding local and state ones too.

One of our city council members was arrested for embezzling money from city coffers that was intended to go to local nonprofits and city agencies. He's the one that got caught- I know for a fact that they all do it here. The local Democrat party has taken no steps to 1) remove him from office or 2) distance themselves from him. Because they're all doing it.

Remove the funding that doesn't serve any mission anyway and we won't have to worry about it.

 

[NorthDallas40]

It' something. After 9/11 we spent enormous amounts of money on security. We've got to protect everyone against terrorism!

We're still paying a lot in terms of time wasted for screening, etc. And yet right now more people die from COVID every day that a whole planeload of people blown up by a terrorist.

It was more than money spent. We also gave in as that damn Patriot Act was passed.

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

More COVID facts the CDC & Biden Administration doesn't want you to hear.

 

[Ernest T. Vol]

Who determines how much lives are worth?

Market forces. For example, a car could be built that almost no one would be killed in. However, the price of that is too high for almost anyone to pay. There's your price.

 

[Wireless1]

More COVID facts the CDC & Biden Administration doesn't want you to hear.

How could we get access the to info he had on the flash drive?

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

How could we get access the to info he had on the flash drive?

No idea. I’m not even sure what he is saying is true, but it sounds legit. Cherry-picking data is a strong attribute of the federal government.

 

[Boca Vol]

I am worried about my daughter. She's ten. Over the last several months she's become apprehensive. To the point where at brunch yesterday she wouldn't tell the server what she wanted to eat, I asked her after a long silence is everything ok, and she burst into tears. I have never seen her like this. After she calmed down she told us she got too nervous to talk. Earlier that day we had the convo with her that she had to go back to wearing masks in school on Monday. We are signing her up for someone to talk to. Not good.

Man, I hate to hear this, and I can't tell you how common a problem this has become. I dealt with it, to a degree, with one of my own children.

Making matters worse, it's become very difficult to get kids in with a good counselor/therapist because of the dramatic increase in demand.

Will pray that she is able to get some help and feel better.

I hate hearing this. It sucks that kids can't be kids and are now afraid of things they shouldn't have to concern themselves with.

 

[davethevol]

I hate hearing this. It sucks that kids can't be kids and are now afraid of things they shouldn't have to concern themselves with.

It pisses me off to no end these people that want a mask mandate for kids in schools.

 

[LouderVol]

Boom!

Look at that. People protecting themselves and others. I am glad the vaccine hasnt turned everyone into condescending jackarses like it has here.

 

[AshG]

No idea. I’m not even sure what he is saying is true, but it sounds legit. Cherry-picking data is a strong attribute of the federal government.

Cherry picking data is also a strong attribute of anyone who feels passionately about a subject. We must all own our biases and be open that they may cloud our thinking.

 

[evillawyer]

Boom!

Look at that. People protecting themselves and others. I am glad the vaccine hasnt turned everyone into condescending jackarses like it has here.

What civil liberty is being being violated by vaccine passes?