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#103,352
AshG said:
Toxicology and molecular biology is not the same as epidemiology.

I'll trust the doctors who have saved my life a few times (Dr Rasnake at UT Med, chair of infectious diseases) who provide grounded science over individuals like this talking way out of their lane.
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Your choice. But there are plenty more of these “individuals” as you say, and they are plenty qualified to make this hypothesis and have. I personally just recommend each individual do their own reading and research and go with what your gut tells you afterwards.
 
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AthensVol2007 said:
The Delta variant is believed to have arrived in the US around May. On May 1st the 7 day average for deaths was 681, on August 15th the 7 day average for deaths was 601. Deaths have flatlined at worst with the Delta variant. Deaths are 1/5th of what they were in January and 2/3rd of what they were in March. 7 day average for cases is 2.5x today what it was on May 1, yet our deaths are flatlined to down. Tell me again about the damage Delta is doing within our borders.
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I didn’t define damage as death only. Go visit an ICU and ask the staff about Delta
 
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JOEY'S ALL VOL !!! said:
Your choice. But there are plenty more of these “individuals” as you say, and they are plenty qualified to make this hypothesis and have. I personally just recommend each individual do their own reading and research and go with what your gut tells you afterwards.
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I do my research. :) Kind of my job, for better or worse. My kids like to eat.... But I digress.

Anyway, I believe she is confusing bacterial infections for viral infections. What she is describing is EXACTLY what happens in hospitals with the new superbugs and superfungi. But both bacteria and fungi actively adapt to antibacterials and fungicides, which is why doctors are now increasingly reticent to provide antibiotics until all other options are off the table.

Think of viruses as little copying machines making copies of themselves using host cells as the paper. The vaccines slow down the rate of copying significantly, giving the viruses less time to copy. Less copies means less mutations.

In people who are unvaccinated or who have not previously been infected, the nasty little buggers go crazy and churn out all sorts of mess. Some variants are so far away from the original they don't even make it out of the airway (Ever seen the Michael Keaton movie Multiplicity? The last clone?) and can't replicate. We don't even know about those. Other times, the virus accidentally makes an more evil twin Super Copier on Meth that copies itself even faster. That's Delta.

Delta happened because of errors in the replication process, not because of active attempts to overcome the vaccine. That's the realm of bacteria and fungi, not viruses. And that's the behavior Dr. Lindsay has on her mind.

Statistics leave open the chance that a vaccinated individual will, at some point, produce a variant. But I don't believe that's what we're seeing.
 
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evillawyer said:
So why are MAGAnistas all about regeneron, which lacks full FDA approval, but won't get the vaccine because it lacks FDA approval?
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People want to have as many options available to them. Instead of just herding people down the vaccine route, there could have been a lot done to offer as many experimental options as they could. Or, give people the option to opt out.
 
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bamawriter said:
I just found out that a high school classmate of mine is on a ventilator. Apparently his first symptoms only began Saturday. He went downhill really quickly. He has 3 kids and is the sole breadwinner.

I am really tired of this virus.
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Hope he pulls thru man. Yeah I’m beyond sick and tired of this virus too
 
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bamawriter said:
I just found out that a high school classmate of mine is on a ventilator. Apparently his first symptoms only began Saturday. He went downhill really quickly. He has 3 kids and is the sole breadwinner.

I am really tired of this virus.
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This thing sucks. I’m sorry about your friend.
 
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bamawriter said:
I just found out that a high school classmate of mine is on a ventilator. Apparently his first symptoms only began Saturday. He went downhill really quickly. He has 3 kids and is the sole breadwinner.

I am really tired of this virus.
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Hoping and praying all turns out well with your friend. This virus just completely sucks.
 
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AshG said:
That's a streeeeeeeeeetch.

Show me where I found positivity in his illness. Do it. Go ahead.
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I believe a smart ass comment about him prophesying his own death...say alot about you...if your were as high and mighty as you act..why even make a comment that can be taken that way...seems like your holding that bible a prop like you accused the state of Tennessee of doing...
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I believe a smart ass comment about him prophesying his own death...say alot about you...if your were as high and mighty as you act..why even make a comment that can be taken that way...seems like your holding that bible a prop like you accused the state of Tennessee of doing...
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None of us are perfect. I have deep seated and familial issues with people who claim to prophesy in the name of Christ. I should not have made that comment, no.
 
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AshG said:
None of us are perfect. I have deep seated and familial issues with people who claim to prophesy in the name of Christ. I should not have made that comment, no.
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No one's perfect...but enjoying is ones death because doesn't agree with you side is disgusting...then to comment on others that do...is typical of the faithful, tell others how to live while doing the opposite...you should become a politician they do the same thing...it'd be natural
 
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whodeycin85 said:
No one's perfect...but enjoying is ones death because doesn't agree with you side is disgusting...then to comment on others that do...is typical of the faithful, tell others how to live while doing the opposite...you should become a politician they do the same thing...it'd be natural
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I was not enjoying his death. I was not glorifying in his death. You want me to do those things, so you are projecting them onto me.

I messed up, yes. Now bring the full might of your disdain for me to bear. Right now. Eviscerate me. I've apologized for having a human moment. Beat me up for it. Show us all how you can destroy me. I won't put up a fight at all.
 
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AshG said:
I was not enjoying his death. I was not glorifying in his death. You want me to do those things, so you are projecting them onto me.

I messed up, yes. Now bring the full might of your disdain for me to bear. Right now. Eviscerate me. I've apologized for having a human moment. Beat me up for it. Show us all how you can destroy me. I won't put up a fight at all.
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Has nothing to do with that..just pointing it out....nice spin tho... have a good evening
 
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evillawyer said:
So why are MAGAnistas all about regeneron, which lacks full FDA approval, but won't get the vaccine because it lacks FDA approval?
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Im really confused by you. You always post stats about DeSantis that go your way. Yet all the stats you post are about the people (flawed or not up to discretion ) that live in that state. Do you live in fl? I doubt it... but anyway the people are gonna do what they want no matter what DeSantis says. So what does DeSantis saying masks are up to you have to do with the people that live there having there opinion to wear it. Going by 3/4 of your post if a person in charge said to jump in front of a train we all should.
 
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AshG said:
I was not enjoying his death. I was not glorifying in his death. You want me to do those things, so you are projecting them onto me.

I messed up, yes. Now bring the full might of your disdain for me to bear. Right now. Eviscerate me. I've apologized for having a human moment. Beat me up for it. Show us all how you can destroy me. I won't put up a fight at all.
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Ash as usual it’s not about “beating you up”. It’s just that you criticize other posters daily with some sort of high horse mentality but you do the exact same things yourself which is the point. It’s the hypocrisy that people criticize you on, not the actual post content
 
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AshG said:
You took a swing after I apologized. Keep going. You know you want to, and I will hold up my promise of not responding in kind.
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Why are you playing a victim??? Its over why keep trying to shame someone for pointing out your Hypocrisy..no one wants to beat you up....just stop the holier then thou BS you spout...we are all human and have human emotions and reactions...alot of people read that and moved on...you chose to comment then chastise....no one made you comment...stop playing the victim spin. Move on..
 
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