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bamawriter said:
That's my entire point. The 99% argument is irrelevant to long term concerns. What if this guy winds up in the 99%?



Agreed.



Why do you seek my respect? My respect should meaningless to you, and I can't imagine why it wouldn't be. Yours is certainly meaningless to me.

This is a discussion. We're conversing. That's the purpose of this forum. I'm under no delusion that I'm likely to change your mind on this or any other topic.

But, to answer your question: I do not have respect for what I consider reckless decisions. If you like Pepsi better than Coke, I respect your preference even though I disagree. I respect the fact that you're a UT fan, even though I'm not. I respect whatever religious beliefs you have, or the lack thereof. But if you told me that you're going to go skydiving without a parachute, I would not respect that decision. I think that remaining unvaccinated is bad decision both for you and the people around you. I will not argue against your freedom to make such a choice, but I'm under no obligation to respect it.
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Were you trying to sound like a pompous ass yuppie?
 
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luthervol said:
KFF COVID-19 Vaccine Monitor: Profile Of The Unvaccinated
The unvaccinated group are younger, more likely to identify as Republicans or be Republican-leaning, and more likely to have lower levels of education and lower incomes than the vaccinated population.

..... those who say they will “definitely not” get a COVID-19 vaccine is overwhelmingly made up of White adults (70% of the group compared to 49% of the “wait and see” group).

......while the more vaccine resistant “definitely not” group is overwhelmingly Republican-leaning, with two-thirds (67%) in the group identifying as either Republican or Republican-leaning independents.
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When the actual vax rates are counter to your claim, find a source which isn't based on vax rates.

Are the anti mask, vaccine-resistant protestors in other countries Trump voters?
 
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McDad said:
When the actual vax rates are counter to your claim, find a source which isn't based on vax rates.

Are the anti mask, vaccine-resistant protestors in other countries Trump voters?
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lol..........
Obviously not Trump voters, but undoubtedly disproportionally Trump admirers.
 
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#104,557
bamawriter said:
That's my entire point. The 99% argument is irrelevant to long term concerns.
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What concerns me about long term concerns are the numerous drugs which underwent normal trials, took years to come to market, had full FDA approval only to be removed from the market after the harmful effects were done. If that can happen with SOP scrutiny, I dont see why a wait-and-see approach with these vaccines is surprising.
 
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McDad said:
What concerns me about long term concerns are the numerous drugs which underwent normal trials, took years to come to market, had full FDA approval only to be removed from the market after the harmful effects were done. If that can happen with SOP scrutiny, I dont see why a wait-and-see approach with these vaccines is surprising.
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How new do you think the Covid vaccine base is?
 
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McDad said:
I should have been more clear. Human trials. My fault.
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Hypertension was found. In human trials it was later found to be “minimal “ and FDA approval was the next step when the application was pulled in 2017 (I think. I’m going from memory now as I’m no longer looking things up. ADHA and whatnot) The point being that there’s almost 20 years of research on this. They didn’t pull it from their ass in 2 years and long term side effects of the base are non existent in those 20 years.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Hypertension was found. In human trials it was later found to be “minimal “ and FDA approval was the next step when the application was pulled in 2017 (I think. I’m going from memory now as I’m no longer looking things up. ADHA and whatnot) The point being that there’s almost 20 years of research on this. They didn’t pull it from their ass in 2 years and long term side effects of the base are non existent in those 20 years.
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Any recollection on why the application was pulled?
 
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McDad said:
Any recollection on why the application was pulled?
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Escalation of commitment.
Basically the lack of return on investment as there didn’t appear to be a need for the vaccine.
One of those moments in history that everyone would love a do over on. Like when Gaylord entertain closed Opryland
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Escalation of commitment.
Basically the lack of return on investment as there didn’t appear to be a need for the vaccine.
One of those moments in history that everyone would love a do over on. Like when Gaylord entertain closed Opryland
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I read a long piece on this sometime last year. It basically came down to spending 15 years anticipating that SARS might come back. When it didn't, the developers decided to sit on the technology until it might come in handy, and started testing it on other stuff like HIV.
 
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