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[evillawyer]

Calling it now. The sun is going to come up again tomorrow. I will be back tomorrow afternoon to congratulate myself on my prognostication skills.

Yes, Clay b***hing about reasonable public health measures and being wrong about COVID is as predictable as the sun coming up.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Yes, Clay b***hing about reasonable public health measures and being wrong about COVID is as predictable as the sun coming up.

But that wasn’t your claim now was it?

As I predicted, Clay's bemoaning his BFF's Twitter suspension

Of course Travis will complain about a colleague being suspended from social media. Just like most anybody in his situation would. Just as sure as the sun is going to come up tomorrow

 

[allvol123]

But that wasn’t your claim now was it?

Of course Travis will complain about a colleague being suspended from social media. Just like most anybody in his situation would. Just as sure as the sun is going to come up tomorrow

Sun isnt nearly as reliable at evil posting another stupid twit. That is money.

 

[Orangeslice13]

When you say "treating", do you mean giving them an ICU bed or do you mean no service what so ever? Because there are several experimental therapeutics that would not require overnight stay.

I mean not admitting them to the hospital. It’s your choice not to take the vaccine for whatever reason and it’s their choice not to treat you for whatever reason

 

[NorthDallas40]

I mean not admitting them to the hospital. It’s your choice not to take the vaccine for whatever reason and it’s their choice not to treat you for whatever reason

Eh not so much. Hippocratic Oath and what not.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Eh not so much. Hippocratic Oath and what not.

You’ve operated AMA they are free of that oath. And as a for profit hospital they don’t have to admit people who can’t pay or that violate their rules.
Think of it this way. Memorial hospital in chattanooga doesn’t have to see you. Earlanger down the street does. If you don’t want to follow memorials rules you can take your chances at Earlanger. Of course memorial will have ICU beds available for things other than Covid.

 

[NorthDallas40]

You’ve operated AMA they are free of that oath. And as a for profit hospital they don’t have to admit people who can’t pay or that violate their rules.
Think of it this way. Memorial hospital in chattanooga doesn’t have to see you. Earlanger down the street does. If you don’t want to follow memorials rules you can take your chances at Earlanger. Of course memorial will have ICU beds available for things other than Covid.

I’d be shocked if the doctors took that stance. I can easily see the slimeball administrators taking that stance.

 

[allvol123]

I’d be shocked if the doctors took that stance. I can easily see the slimeball administrators taking that stance.

Its nonsense. Hospitals literally exist because of poor choices made by citizens.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I’d be shocked if the doctors took that stance. I can easily see the slimeball administrators taking that stance.

I know several Drs that already are.
Why should they continue to treat people who are refusing to be treated?
As far as slime ball administration…..I hope they exist. If I’m in a car wreck tomorrow that puts me in the need of an ICU bed I’d like to think that treatment will be available and not clogged up by ****tards that are clogging up the system

 

[Orangeslice13]

Its nonsense. Hospitals literally exist because of poor choices made by citizens.

At least you own that you’re in the “poor choice “ category

 

[whodeycin85]

I know several Drs that already are.
Why should they continue to treat people who are refusing to be treated?
As far as slime ball administration…..I hope they exist. If I’m in a car wreck tomorrow that puts me in the need of an ICU bed I’d like to think that treatment will be available and not clogged up by ****tards that are clogging up the system

Overdoses, suicide attempts and self inflicted cars accident shouldn't be treated in case someone else needs a bed.....as well correct

 

[NorthDallas40]

I know several Drs that already are.
Why should they continue to treat people who are refusing to be treated?
As far as slime ball administration…..I hope they exist. If I’m in a car wreck tomorrow that puts me in the need of an ICU bed I’d like to think that treatment will be available and not clogged up by ****tards that are clogging up the system

Oh I have no doubt that they exist. And they might bump you for a rich phat bastard getting a gastric sleeve someday too. Empty beds are empty revenue but higher paying customers are higher revenue too.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I mean not admitting them to the hospital. It’s your choice not to take the vaccine for whatever reason and it’s their choice not to treat you for whatever reason

I guess then it becomes a question of can you do it or should you do it?

I would think a reasonable response would be to prioritize between the vaccinated and unvaccinated with regards to ICU beds, but for just being admitted, might have really ruminate on that.

How do those same hospitals treat illegal aliens? I would think that an unvaccinated American would get priority over a non-citizen, correct?

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Wife and I are both vaccinated on June 11th. Wife was feeling sick and we both got tested. She is positive and I’m negative.

Right now we both have stuffy noses.

This whole thing is dumb. There is no way to know if the vaccine worked, if the tests worked, and if the symptoms are real. Everything with my experience right now is very inconsistent.

I had both shots in May and for the last 3 weeks have had a stuffy and wake up in the morning with a cough. I feel fine otherwise, no fever or other illnesses.

I haven’t been sick or even had a stuffy nose since December 2019 when I had what the doctor thought to be a very bad cause of bronchitis or pneumonia.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Overdoses, suicide attempts and self inflicted cars accident shouldn't be treated in case someone else needs a bed.....as well correct

Memorial can and does kick whoever they want down the road to Earlanger. It’s usually because of insurance but in our case we’re talking about AMA.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

At least you own that you’re in the “poor choice “ category

Too soon to say that. We have no idea what the long term effects are. Nor can it be a "poor choice" if you are basing it on the information presented right now.

Most people in my shoes will openly tell you that they are making an educated decision based on the risks. People have varying risk levels and risk tolerance.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Memorial can and does kick whoever they want down the road to Earlanger. It’s usually because of insurance but in our case we’re talking about AMA.

Mom was kicked out of Memorial because they didn't do a certain procedure when my sister was born, based on religious beliefs (probably C-section??).

So I'm fully aware of that scenario.

 

[whodeycin85]

Memorial can and does kick whoever they want down the road to Earlanger. It’s usually because of insurance but in our case we’re talking about AMA.

Overdoes and sucides are AMA....the hospitals have every right...if it works for them so be it.....but I would guess it'll catch up eventually in loss of revenue

 

[Orangeslice13]

I guess then it becomes a question of can you do it or should you do it?

I would think a reasonable response would be to prioritize between the vaccinated and unvaccinated with regards to ICU beds, but for just being admitted, might have really ruminate on that.

How do those same hospitals treat illegal aliens? I would think that an unvaccinated American would get priority over a non-citizen, correct?

Just like the previous post. Memorial refuses patients all the time. I believe the law is that they have to see you if you walk into the ER but what that means is they stick you in an ambulance and send you down the road.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

I guess then it becomes a question of can you do it or should you do it?

I would think a reasonable response would be to prioritize between the vaccinated and unvaccinated with regards to ICU beds, but for just being admitted, might have really ruminate on that.

How do those same hospitals treat illegal aliens? I would think that an unvaccinated American would get priority over a non-citizen, correct?

Great question.

Would unvaccinated get priority over a drug overdose? A drunk driver? A gang member shot by another gang member?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Mom was kicked out of Memorial because they didn't do a certain procedure when my sister was born, based on religious beliefs (probably C-section??).

So I'm fully aware of that scenario.

That’s why I picked them for this discussion. They are a real world example and I’ve heard they’re seriously considering this policy.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I know several Drs that already are.
Why should they continue to treat people who are refusing to be treated?
As far as slime ball administration…..I hope they exist. If I’m in a car wreck tomorrow that puts me in the need of an ICU bed I’d like to think that treatment will be available and not clogged up by ****tards that are clogging up the system

You really think the nonvaccinated are the only ones in ICU beds (or the biggest contributor)? Really? You're smarter than that.

You're in the middle of a labor shortage in the industry due to a demographic shift (baby boomers retiring and not many more behind them to fill those spots). But you want to target the unvaccinated as the main culprits?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Too soon to say that. We have no idea what the long term effects are. Nor can it be a "poor choice" if you are basing it on the information presented right now.

Most people in my shoes will openly tell you that they are making an educated decision based on the risks. People have varying risk levels and risk tolerance.

there are risks in everything. You take a risk by taking the vaccine. And there are risks for not taking it. Being de prioritizing in triage is becoming one of those risks

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Just like the previous post. Memorial refuses patients all the time. I believe the law is that they have to see you if you walk into the ER but what that means is they stick you in an ambulance and send you down the road.

For them to single out people that do not take an unproven vaccine, yet not turn away people that are not vaccinated for hepatitis, tetanus, chicken pox, influenza, or whatever else, or like was mentioned by others, illegal aliens, drunk drivers, drug overdoses, 400# people, etc...

Seems like they are just wanting to jump on the politically and now socially acceptable bandwagon of singling out unvaccinated folks.

 

[allvol123]

At least you own that you’re in the “poor choice “ category

How so? Been infected and have 1 Pfizer shot. What are my poor choices?