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[volinbham]

How was their response disastrous?

from the article:

The details of Swedish policies as described by Brusselaers and her co-authors are horrifying. The Swedish government, they report, deliberately tried to use children to spread COVID-19 and denied care to seniors and those suffering from other conditions.

clearly bad policy but this is bad journalism

That’s a reproach to the signers of the Great Barrington Declaration, a widely criticized white paper endorsing the quest for herd immunity and co-written by Martin Kulldorff, a Sweden-born Harvard professor who has explicitly defended his native country’s policies.

The GBD never recommended what Sweden did to the elderly (the opposite in fact) nor did it recommend using kids to deliberately spread it. The "widely criticized white paper" phrase is a give away of the author's leanings. It was also widely praised and in hindsight appears to be a better strategy what the US implemented.

More poor journalism

The bottom line is that Swedes suffered grievously from Tegnell’s policies. According to the authoritative Johns Hopkins pandemic tracker, while its total death rate from February 2020 through this week, 1,790 per million population, is better than that of the U.S. (2,939), Britain (2,420) and France (2,107), it’s worse than that of Germany (1,539), Canada (984) and Japan (220).

If the Swedes suffered grievously from Tegnell's policies then it stands to reason American, Brits and Francos suffered even more grievously.

 

[Grand Vol]

Column: Did Sweden beat the pandemic by refusing to lock down? No, its record is disastrous

Here's the only thing you need to know about the article...

Explicit or not, the effort failed. “Projected ‘natural herd-immunity’ levels are still nowhere in sight,” the researchers wrote, adding that herd immunity “does not seem within reach without widespread vaccinations” and “may be unlikely” under any circumstances.

 

[VolinWayne]

Severe government measures did little to lower COVID-19 deaths or excess mortality from all causes. Indeed, government measures appear to have increased excess mortality from non-COVID health conditions. Yet the severity of these measures negatively affected economic performance as measured by unemployment and GDP and education as measured by access to in-person schooling. States such as Florida and countries such as Sweden that took more restrained approaches and focused protection efforts on the most medically vulnerable populations had superior economic and educational outcomes at little or no health cost. The evidence suggests that in future pandemics policymakers should avoid severe, prolonged, and generalized restrictions and instead carefully tailor government responses to specific disease threats, encouraging state and local governments to balance the health benefits against the economic, educational, health, and social costs of specific response measures.”

Three Years In, How Did the Lockdowns Go? ⋆ Brownstone Institute

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[VolinWayne]

I was hoping folks around here could shed light on it. My guess is that they consider their death rate disastrous when compared to other Scandinavian countries

Below is a pretty cool we site where you can see and compare for yourself excess deaths in each country. By the looks of things Sweden did pretty well in this regard

Watching Worldwide Mortality Data for You! - Mortality Watch

 

[82_VOL_83]

How is this still a thing?

Tenants say a 3-year ban on evictions kept them housed. Landlords say they're drowning in debt

Why don't landlords just go in and gut the homes during a period of "no rent payments". Don't evict, just gut the place.

 

[McDad]

Why don't landlords just go in and gut the homes during a period of "no rent payments". Don't evict, just gut the place.

Can't. Properties have to be habitable.

 

[85SugarVol]

More than $200 billion in pandemic relief potentially squandered, says government watchdog report

 

[allvol123]

I’m sure his consulting will result in millions of additional dollars headed to Georgetown.

 

[Orangeburst]

Can't. Properties have to be habitable.

What about landlord mortgages and liens and such? Just how are they to not pay and not lose their property?

 

[85SugarVol]

I’m sure his consulting will result in millions of additional dollars headed to Georgetown.

Brrrrrrr

 

[McDad]

What about landlord mortgages and liens and such? Just how are they to not pay and not lose their property?

This is speculative based on my own experience, but it is possible their lender has agreed to reduced payments (maybe interest only) as long as they are under eviction moratorium. My lender did that for me when I went to half rent payments for the tenants who needed it.
Also, it's unlikely the landlord has the majority of units in their portfolio not paying and unable to evict.
It's still a giant pita and government meddling/ over reach.

 

[Orangeburst]

This is speculative based on my own experience, but it is possible their lender has agreed to reduced payments (maybe interest only) as long as they are under eviction moratorium. My lender did that for me when I went to half rent payments for the tenants who needed it.
Also, it's unlikely the landlord has the majority of units in their portfolio not paying and unable to evict.
It's still a giant pita and government meddling/ over reach.

Will Those back payments be made whole? I doubt it

 

[McDad]

Will Those back payments be made whole? I doubt it

From the tenants to landlords? Not a chance.
From landlords to lenders? Absolutely and with accrued interest.

 

[Orangeburst]

From the tenants to landlords? Not a chance.
From landlords to lenders? Absolutely and with accrued interest.

Well that double blows

 

[McDad]

Well that double blows

It does. The only saving grace is real estate has appreciated at an incredible pace since the mid teens. Some of that appreciation is simply keeping pace with inflation though.

 

[Orangeburst]

It does. The only saving grace is real estate has appreciated at an incredible pace since the mid teens. Some of that appreciation is simply keeping pace with inflation though.

What a mess.
No wonder rental prices are through the roof

 

[McDad]

What a mess.
No wonder rental prices are through the roof

Inflation is showing an early sign of slowing down but we are never going back to how it was pre-and-during-pandemic wrt prices, rents, and interest. Rates will come down some over time but everything else is the new normal.

 

[DC_Vol]

Inflation is showing an early sign of slowing down but we are never going back to how it was pre-and-during-pandemic wrt prices, rents, and interest. Rates will come down some over time but everything else is the new normal.

Wait wait wait…hold up.

 

[Orangeburst]

Those Trump years were tough on real income

 

[kiddiedoc]

What a mess.
No wonder rental prices are through the roof

We were shopping for accommodations for my college-aged son a few months back. The apartment prices in Knoxville are unimaginable.

 

[Orangeburst]

We were shopping for accommodations for my college-aged son a few months back. The apartment prices in Knoxville are unimaginable.

Q
I know Freak has been messing with features lately but does the screen occasionally auto refresh on its own now?

 

[Freak]

Q
I know Freak has been messing with features lately but does the screen occasionally auto refresh on its own now?

We've been having some issues with pages auto refreshing on iOS safari. I'm implementing some fixes it's just a matter of finding what works. Post in the thread in the help forum if you'd like. Also, please post there if you notice it going away, so I'll know my fix worked.

 

[McDad]

We were shopping for accommodations for my college-aged son a few months back. The apartment prices in Knoxville are unimaginable.

What rents are you finding relative to amenities and size?

 

[VolinMichigan]

More than $200 billion in pandemic relief potentially squandered, says government watchdog report

Thanks Trump!