LB Beasley Under Investigation

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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Agreed.

As for those talking about killing feral cats/dogs, that's apples and oranges because this was a KNOWN PET owned by a resident of the apartment. This wasn't some feral animal killing Pappy's prize laying hen...... it was a PET.

Let someone abuse your pet dog and then tell me it's just another dog and nobody should care. If you can do that, turn in your human card.
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Yeah and it's a baby animal at that.

It's a fellow mammal and a baby.

We are biologically wired to want to care for babies and baby animals.

To torture a baby of any sort means that you are a sociopath and the world would probably be a better place without you because one who doesn't care is one who shouldn't be.
 
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sjt18 said:
So one injustice demands another? That was pretty ridiculous btw.
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sjt18, I think based on your posts that you and I would probably agree on a lot of worldview types of things. Certainly on the intrinsic value of all life, and the value of humans in particular because of reflecting God. However, I do think that maybe you are out on a limb here with this point you're making. It's fine to value this young man as a human and even to give him inherent worth above a cat. However, in any organization, there are deeds you do or acts you commit which from then on will exclude you from representing that organization anymore. You have become a liability because of what you did. If a sales rep got crosswise with a client and shoved him to the ground, there would be no "punishment and rehabilitation" for that employee. The business would part ways with that person. It is possible to cross a line, a point of no return. I think this young football player has probably done that. It doesn't mean he isn't valued as a human. So if you care at all about getting advice from a stranger (but perhaps also from a brother?) ... consider whether this point you're supporting publicly is off base. Are you able to roll it back in your mind, and maybe even in your public posts? I respect your strength of conviction, either way.
 
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sjt18 said:
So you value this cat more than you value Beasley and his future? His life?

When this country was sane and substantially more moral... we understood the value of animal life compared to human life. Now we don't. We have people refusing to put down dogs with cancer and paying thousands on surgery while kids in their own community live in squalor. We have people in this thread who cannot answer the simple question as to whether they value the life of an unborn human child more than a cat.

And you think my stance is "disgusting"? It is A CAT. Not a human being.
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Folks are taking issue with how you and others are being so flippant about torturing a cat. We will just disagree I guess, but PUTTING CATS IN A BAG AND DROWNING THEM will never be okay with me. You can call me a snowflake until you can't breathe, I don't give a ****.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Imagine being in Tuscaloosa or Gainesville this fall and having the whole stadium meowing at him when he takes the field. If he did it, he's got to go. It's not fair to our other players who don't want to be the laughing stock of the nation.
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I've been in a YEARS long battle to turn my friend into a Vols fan. And despite all the crap we've been through in recent times...she's finally there. Then this story came out and she said if he plays another down she will never watch or cheer for a Vols game in any sport ever again. All that hard work undone in a flash!

I'm afraid it'll be like that for a lot of would be Vol fans. Realistically, there are many legitimate levels of reasons why we shouldn't allow kitten torturers to respresent our university. So, unless he's completely exonerated in a way that satisfies everyone, he should be shown the door.
 
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KnoxKid said:
I've been in a YEARS long battle to turn my friend into a Vols fan. And despite all the crap we've been through in recent times...she's finally there. Then this story came out and she said if he plays another down she will never watch or cheer for a Vols game in any sport ever again. All that hard work undone in a flash!

I'm afraid it'll be like that for a lot of would be Vol fans. Realistically, there are many legitimate levels of reasons why we shouldn't allow kitten torturers to respresent our university. So, unless he's completely exonerated in a way that satisfies everyone, he should be shown the door.
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He gone .. if proved true ... hope its not but poor little cat didnt just start having issues all of a sudden ... with the injuries reported ... hope it can recover and not be in any pain ... anybody that is mean to defenseless animals there is place that not so nice people go ...
 
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This kid needs a good lesson of how that poor helpless animal felt trying to stay alive from such evil treatment!
Kick this piece of ferment out of the State of Tennessee!
Bring his ass to Georgia, I’ve got a way to teach this kid a lesson he will never ever forget......I guarantee he’d never mistreat another helpless animal

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sjt18 said:
Thanks for being the one person on this thread at least willing to admit you hold that perverse view of the value of human life.
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Why do you keep bringing up the value of a human life vs a cat life? I don’t think anyone here has insinuated the guy should be put to death, or even suffer physical abuse such as he inflicted on the cat. We are just saying he shouldn’t be on the UT football team and should have his scholarship taken away.
 
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Vols1891 said:
Why do you keep bringing up the value of a human life vs a cat life? I don’t think anyone here has insinuated the guy should be put to death, or even suffer physical abuse such as he inflicted on the cat. We are just saying he shouldn’t be on the UT football team and should have his scholarship taken away.
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I was bored and did a quick Twitter search of Beasley. It’s in the NY Post, USA Today, even TMZ. Now granted I hate the USA Today sports page and pretty much all of their National writers and TMZ is a joke, the NY Post is the Post, but they are still very recognizable news outlets. If he ends up being guilty the only way this goes away is complete removal from the school. I don’t see another way, unless he goes to counseling, gets far away from football and becomes some sort of animal rights activist. And I think even that is pushing it to keep him on campus.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I was bored and did a quick Twitter search of Beasley. It’s in the NY Post, USA Today, even TMZ. Now granted I hate the USA Today sports page and pretty much all of their National writers and TMZ is a joke, the NY Post is the Post, but they are still very recognizable news outlets. If he ends up being guilty the only way this goes away is complete removal from the school. I don’t see another way, unless he goes to counseling, gets far away from football and becomes some sort of animal rights activist. And I think even that is pushing it to keep him on campus.
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It is on ESPN and pretty much all the message boards of rival SEC schools too. We literally would have PETA protesting outside our games if this guy suits up.
 
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Vols1891 said:
It is on ESPN and pretty much all the message boards of rival SEC schools too. We literally would have PETA protesting outside our games if this guy suits up.
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Hell we probably do anyways because Smokey is on the sidelines. That dog probably lives better than most humans too.

It’s a no win situation that this kid has potentially put himself and the university in. If I were innocent I’d be broadcasting it all over social media, from the top of Neyland Stadium, there wouldn’t be an avenue I wouldn’t take to clear my name of this, and I wouldn’t care what legal advice was given telling me to stay quiet.
 
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Vols1891 said:
It is on ESPN and pretty much all the message boards of rival SEC schools too. We literally would have PETA protesting outside our games if this guy suits up.
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Agree, and I suspect this whole thing is going to get worse, not better with more light shone on it. If we make a determination that he did it, the sooner he's gone, the better for UT.
 
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Vols1891 said:
It is on ESPN and pretty much all the message boards of rival SEC schools too. We literally would have PETA protesting outside our games if this guy suits up.
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If he’s not guilty? Let em. They’ll get bored and run after the next thing.
 
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Sometimes I read threads like this and it scares me that some of you people defending him are really people.

He deserves to be kicked off the team, he deserves to be kicked out of school, and he can fight any legal repercussions and rehabilitate away from the school and team. We’re not saying lock him up for life and throw away the key. But he does NOT deserve the privilege of a free education and the rights to play for our team.

Don’t let the door hitcha where the good Lord split ya on your way out of town
 
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sjt18 said:
No. No strawman. I think he did something wrong. I think he should be punished. But unless this is a pattern of behavior then he should not be kicked off the team or treated like a mass murderer for getting angry and hurting a cat... an ANIMAL... NOT a human being.
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Deliberately hurting someone’s pet is sadistic behavior and a serious red flag for his character. I would kick him off the team. Let him get his 2nd chance somewhere else if a team is willing to take him.
 
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