Legalization of weed in TN

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Rickyvol77 said:
hog88 and utvolpj, are you saying that if you had an ad for a roommate for you and your children, or you wanted to hire someone for a job with a business you owned, you really wouldn't care or want to know if they had previous felonies on their record????

or if they did, you would hire them or live with them regardless?
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Yes I would want to know if I was looking for a roommate, and I would vett any applicant. They shouldn't by law HAVE to disclose.

I am an employer and I have hired felons. They deserve a chance at life after they served their time.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
that's because you are saying there is no victim with DUI, drug dealing, tax evasion, fencing cars, money laundering, reckless endangerment, etc. and that's simply not true
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I haven't said all that since many of the ones you listed have a victim. Let's use examples like weed (the thread subject) or prostitution. Headline grabbers when arrests are made that really do noting to benefit the community
 
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using weed by itself isnt the issue just like using heroin by itself at home is not a big deal, it's the everything else that goes along with it....people getting drunk or high at home and public could care less, it's when you are out and about high/drunk, driving, stumbling around, or outright dealing drugs criminally that is the issue.

Prostitution again isnt illegal because of just some control issue by the government, it is because it LEADS to a whole variety of other public issues (STDs, pimps, child prostitutes, drugs going hand and hand and neighborhoods suffering because of it, thefts, robberies, rapes, etc.)
 
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hog88 said:
Probably not but that has zero to do with this conversation.
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but why if they served their time like you said, should sex offenders get 2nd chances?

Statistically, murder (outside of serial killers/hit men) is one of the least committed recidivist crimes as nearly 85% will never murder anyone again because it was a crime of passion or other type incident.

Still doesnt mean i would hire one for my business....and FWIW, thefts, drugs, sex crimes, etc are among the highest groups with chances of recidivism
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
using weed by itself isnt the issue just like using heroin by itself at home is not a big deal, it's the everything else that goes along with it....people getting drunk or high at home and public could care less, it's when you are out and about high/drunk, driving, stumbling around, or outright dealing drugs criminally that is the issue.

Prostitution again isnt illegal because of just some control issue by the government, it is because it LEADS to a whole variety of other public issues (STDs, pimps, child prostitutes, drugs going hand and hand and neighborhoods suffering because of it, thefts, robberies, rapes, etc.)
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Again you are getting into your obsession with precrime. If prostitution leads to other violent offenses then punish those. But the vast majority of consenting encounters end just fine. Shaming people engaging in prostitution doesn’t stop it. It’s just a weird perversion some have about knowing their neighbors business.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
using weed by itself isnt the issue just like using heroin by itself at home is not a big deal, it's the everything else that goes along with it....people getting drunk or high at home and public could care less, it's when you are out and about high/drunk, driving, stumbling around, or outright dealing drugs criminally that is the issue.

Prostitution again isnt illegal because of just some control issue by the government, it is because it LEADS to a whole variety of other public issues (STDs, pimps, child prostitutes, drugs going hand and hand and neighborhoods suffering because of it, thefts, robberies, rapes, etc.)
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again you're listing possible crimes that might happen if you allow increased freedom. In actuality they are only happening now while being classified as a criminal act.

Trump has used prostitutes many times and I'm not sure any of the things you've listed happened in his neighborhood. Maybe thos things only happen because it is illegal?
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Again you are getting into your obsession with precrime. If prostitution leads to other violent offenses then punish those. But the vast majority of consenting encounters end just fine. Shaming people engaging in prostitution doesn’t stop it. It’s just a weird perversion some have about knowing their neighbors business.
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and if you had 10 prostitutes constantly on your street as poor neighborhoods do, leaving syringe needles, used condoms on your yard, and blowing guys in front of your kids, would you be ok with that?
 
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utvolpj said:
again you're listing possible crimes that might happen if you allow increased freedom. In actuality they are only happening now while being classified as a criminal act.

Trump has used prostitutes many times and I'm not sure any of the things you've listed happened in his neighborhood.
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Have you been to NYC?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
but you are talking about conviction, not the arrest...the confiscation happens at the arrest, not necessarily after the conviction...
law enforcement holds a lot of items as evidence depending on the case, you are saying this shouldn't be
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So what reason do you have to hold someones car in an impound lot and probably charge them storage for it for a marijuana possession charge? 1 year later they're found innocent but they owe $14000 impound fees on a $2000 car.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
but why if they served their time like you said, should sex offenders get 2nd chances?

Statistically, murder (outside of serial killers/hit men) is one of the least committed recidivist crimes as nearly 85% will never murder anyone again because it was a crime of passion or other type incident.

Still doesnt mean i would hire one for my business....and FWIW, thefts, drugs, sex crimes, etc are among the highest groups with chances of recidivism
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As I said earlier, if a person commits a crime so heinous that they deserve to be punished for life or they are a risk to others they should receive life sentences. Keep them locked away.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
and if you had 10 prostitutes constantly on your street as poor neighborhoods do, leaving syringe needles, used condoms on your yard, and blowing guys in front of your kids, would you be ok with that?
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If brothels were legal they wouldn't need to be on the streets. See how that works?
 
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Here in Massachusetts, it's 100% legal as a recreational drug. Smoke, vape, eat it. They got edible gummy bears, lollipops, brownies, cookies.

Walk on in and plop your money on the counter. CASH ONLY. Show ID usually. Some places require you set up an appointment.

It's no big whoop. Satan still underground. Doesn't rain frogs here, either.

Occasionally, you'll smell skunk driving down the road.
 
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northknoxvol said:
Terrible idea....isn’t it as bad for your lungs as smoking? Our lungs were not designed to breath smoke? Enough drunk drivers on the road don’t need more stoned drivers. People who were stoners in high school are pretty much stuck in the drug loop or dead.
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Vape it. Eat it.

Don't smoke and drive. It sucks. Time slows down immensely.

Smile...
 
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VolStrom said:
So what reason do you have to hold someones car in an impound lot and probably charge them storage for it for a marijuana possession charge? 1 year later they're found innocent but they owe $14000 impound fees on a $2000 car.
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i would never do that for a possession of weed charge, i said i dont agree with that for minor charges
 
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hog88 said:
If brothels were legal they wouldn't need to be on the streets. See how that works?
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yes it would...people who didnt want to be licensed or didnt want to owe money to a brothel owner, or simply wanted to do it would do it on the street, legal or not
 
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NEOCON said:
What is everyone’s thought on the legalization of weed in TN?

Do you think it will happen and if so when?

Also, do you think it will start just medical and stay medical or eventually move to recreational?

Curious on all’s thoughts.
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They legalize weed, gambling, prostitution, just as the lottery solved the education problem, this will solve the rest of our financial problems.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
using weed by itself isnt the issue just like using heroin by itself at home is not a big deal, it's the everything else that goes along with it....people getting drunk or high at home and public could care less, it's when you are out and about high/drunk, driving, stumbling around, or outright dealing drugs criminally that is the issue.

Prostitution again isnt illegal because of just some control issue by the government, it is because it LEADS to a whole variety of other public issues (STDs, pimps, child prostitutes, drugs going hand and hand and neighborhoods suffering because of it, thefts, robberies, rapes, etc.)
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Why should child prostitution be illegal? If a child can abort a baby with parent consent, do drag shows at homosexual clubs and choose what gender it is against the parents' will, there should be no reason why a kid can't make a choice in selling their body
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
using weed by itself isnt the issue just like using heroin by itself at home is not a big deal, it's the everything else that goes along with it....people getting drunk or high at home and public could care less, it's when you are out and about high/drunk, driving, stumbling around, or outright dealing drugs criminally that is the issue.

Prostitution again isnt illegal because of just some control issue by the government, it is because it LEADS to a whole variety of other public issues (STDs, pimps, child prostitutes, drugs going hand and hand and neighborhoods suffering because of it, thefts, robberies, rapes, etc.)
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Ban alcohol
 
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