Lesnar vs Vasquez (merged)

#51
#51
orangetanker11 said:
I would agree with this if we were talking about any other fighter, but not Brock. 2-1 doesn't really tell the story, does it? There were other factors at play than just the record or what was on paper.

1. Brock came within seconds of beating former UFC Heavyweight Champion Frank Mir, and probably should have if not for the controversial stoppage. He looked quick, and impressive in just his 2nd ever MMA fight.

2. Lesnar dominated veteran Heath Herring for 15 minutes. This was Lesnar's 3rd fight, Herring's 43rd.

3. Brock wasn't just some guy off the street who wanted to get into MMA. He had a legit wrestling background, and probably a more successful wrestling background than anyone in MMA. Look at all the successful champions in UFC history, and a good number of them have solid wrestling.

4. The UFC needed a face for the Heavyweight division, and a guy that could sell PPV's. (See earlier post in this thread)

Not to mention, Brock wasn't supposed to fight for the title in his 4th MMA fight. He was scheduled to fight Mark Coleman. Coleman pulled out of the fight, and as luck (or good business) would have it, Randy Couture ends his contract dispute and returns to the UFC. Mir vs Noguiera is already set. Who else do you put in there with Couture then? Lesnar made the most sense.
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Agree on all of this.
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#52
#52
MikeDVol said:
congrats you know how to use the google
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No way Velasquez is going to outwrestle Brock. He gives up 20 lbs+ and Brock is the better wrestler.

He's going to try to keep up on their feet and beat him with his cardio, according to his camp.

Brock is never going to let that happen. The deciding factor in this fight is going to be if Velasquez can sprawl and prevent a take-down by Brock.

I don't see it happening. Brock is bigger, stronger, and the better wrestler. He will take him down and pound him out.
 
#54
#54
Ready for this fight!

I think Lesnar will win but will cheering for Cain.

Go Cain! It's your birthday! Gonna party like it's your birthday!
 
#55
#55
Predictions:
Undercard
- Gilbert Yvel over Jon Madsen
- Chris Camozzi over Dong Yi Yang
- Sam Stout over Paul Taylor
- Daniel Roberts over Mike Guymon

Prelims
- Patrick Cote over Tom Lawlor
- Court McGee over Ryan Jensen

Main Card
- Brendan Schaub over Gabriel Gonzaga (KO)
- Matt Hammil over Tito Ortiz (Decision)
- Paulo Thiago over Diego Sanchez (Decision)
- Jake Shields over Martin Kampmann (TKO)
- Brock Lesnar over Cain Velasquez (TKO)
 
#62
#62
No problem.

I usually use TVU for UFC but I always use the other site for pro sports. Usually have multiple links to every game.
 
#67
#67
I have to admit... I'm disliking Brock less and less. He started off as an arrogant a-hole who had zero respect for his opponents. It's good to see him changing and respecting his opponents. They put in so much work. He definitely understands that now.

That cut is horrible. Velazquez dominated him.
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That cut is sick. Yuck.
 
#68
#68
I couldn't believe Lesnar took him down twice, and Valazquez got up. I knew immediately when that happened Valazquez was going to win. Thats the only way Brock can win a fight.
 
#69
#69
oklavol said:
I couldn't believe Lesnar took him down twice, and Valazquez got up. I knew immediately when that happened Valazquez was going to win. Thats the only way Brock can win a fight.
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Velasquez is the energizer bunny. I'm still shocked though. When you have 240-270lb guys in a championship match, you expect someone to get knocked out or tapped out. It was pretty shocking to see him fluster Lesnar like that without finishing him off. Lesnar was absolutely lost though.

Lesson in life... cardio matters. I'm going to starting biking more or something. :p
 
#70
#70
Brock got flattened, that's all there is to it. I really can't say anything else. CV had a gameplan and executed it perfectly and Lesnar was done after about the 1:30 mark. Great fight by CV
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