Cartervol
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In regard to representing their constituents what percentage of those Republicans should have voted for this bill?
Almost as an aside this sounds like a fantastic way to help the whole employment thing.
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fine disregard the gov't. if the healthcare companies can't turn down people for preexisting conditions (as the bill states) why would anyone buy health insurance before they get sick?
The bill does not create a public option, though it expands the universe of covered persons. The debate I've heard on the finances is between a surplus or a deficit add of $500 billion in either direction over ten years. That's $25 billion a year, at worst (or best), depending on your point of view, which is a tiny percentage of the budget.
The real goal here by the GOP has purely been to try to prevent Obama from having a victory, and they've lost that battle now.
The bill makes it mandatory to buy insurance.
The insurance have to take people with preexisting conditions but they also get all the young healthy people to offset the cost.
America is fat, don't you read the news? It's going to cost out the butt to put all those young fat people on Health care. There is no good in this bill anyway you look at it. It's counter productive and will help stall any kind of recovery from the recession. I'm starting to believe they want it to fail. People who don't feel good about the direction of the country will tighten their belts even further. They won't spend money and it will remain where it is. These people in Washington don't seem to care about economic recovery, that's the scary part.The bill makes it mandatory to buy insurance.
The insurance have to take people with preexisting conditions but they also get all the young healthy people to offset the cost.
fine disregard the gov't. if the healthcare companies can't turn down people for preexisting conditions (as the bill states) why would anyone buy health insurance before they get sick?
How much is the penalty? If I'm young and healthy and can afford it I don't get the insurance and eat the penalty cost with a smile. In fact, I'm predicting that happens...alot.
why would she put 200 republican amendments in it if the republicans refused to vote for it? if so she is one dumb *****.
Well, I would like to put my two cents in, if I may. I can see what Champy is saying. A lot of our industrial manufacturing jobs have gone overseas. Why? Because over-priced union labor forced those companies to seek other avenues. When you own a business, you do it to make a profit, not to go belly-up because you have to pay a guy $30 an hour and full benefits, just to push a button.
On the other hand, When I went to buy a vehicle in 2008, I wanted a Dodge. The first my wife wanted was manufactured in Mexico, as well as 60% of the parts. The other. manufactured in Ohio. Both were within a $1000 of being the same price. I bought the one made in America for two reasons: One, it put food on the table of an American family and two, there is no way in hell it costs that much to assemble a car in Mexico. So where is the savings to Americans by sending jobs to Mexico?
We need to bring back the jobs, axe the Unions, rebuild Washington, repeal the Electorial College(which, imo, allows for the bigger states to rule over the smaller states), stop trying to keep up with the Jones' and live within our means, and we will be fine.
This bill KILLS jobs.....PERIOD!!!! BHO does not CARE!
Once again, this is why I am letting all my installers go and I will pay them as subs.
Not sure why I bother anymore. You continually fail to understand R-thinking.
Not sure why I bother anymore. You continually fail to understand R-thinking.
And I just think that you do not see that there is a difference between genuine conservative thought (you), versus political one upsmanship (Boehner).
Why do you think the majority of people in virtually every poll were against this bill?
Too dumb to understand it?
It's a crap bill that required procedural gymnastics to pass and you are calling the R side the political animals?
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and this is why the private healthcare insurance business will cease to exist. Employers will get out of that business. Now the healthcare insurance industry will be directly to individuals and only the wealthy will be takers. Everyone else will eventually default to the government / Medicare solution and it will be sorry care for much, much more money.
People like LG don't understand that Medicare is currently setting the egregious pricing in the arena, yet docs can't make money in that business because of the "no pay" % on Medicare's part and the collections nightmare that the gov't medical crap has become.
This has the Law of Unintended Consequences written all over it, but people in the industry already knew. Sad.
Why do you think the majority of people in virtually every poll were against this bill?
Too dumb to understand it?
It's a crap bill that required procedural gymnastics to pass and you are calling the R side the political animals?
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Depends on how the questions were asked. When the provisions of the bill were presented, my understanbding is that the polls were overwhelmingly positive. It is only when the question was posed in such a fashion as to relate to the bill under attack by the insurance lobb ... er, I mean Fox News, that it came back negative.