Limbaugh mocks Michael J. Fox political ad

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volinbham said:
If you're referring to the Ford commercial that the NAACP objected to, I was completely surprised it was viewed as racist or having racial overtones.

Maybe I'm naive but the mere fact that it was a white women (bimbo) that said "call me" in no way triggered any thoughts of race in my mind. Likewise with the TO/Nicolette Sheridan.

In short, I'm tired of other entities (e.g. NAACP) telling me how I see things.
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Chris Matthews, Lou Dobbs, William Cohen, etc. work for the NAACP?
 
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volinbham said:
In short, I'm tired of other entities (e.g. NAACP) telling me how I see things.
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Did they tell you how you saw things? I missed that. Maybe they're tired of you telling them how you see things. It works both ways. I think race has been a subtle issue in this campaign. With ads like this, they've been tossed out there and dangled only to do their damage before being pulled.

Corker himself thought this ad was inappropriate. I find it telling that the RNC can put their name on this commercial but somehow blame some loophole in the laws they helped push to say they had nothing to do with this ad.
 
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volinbham said:
If you're referring to the Ford commercial that the NAACP objected to, I was completely surprised it was viewed as racist or having racial overtones.

Maybe I'm naive but the mere fact that it was a white women (bimbo) that said "call me" in no way triggered any thoughts of race in my mind. Likewise with the TO/Nicolette Sheridan thing on MNF.

In short, I'm tired of other entities (e.g. NAACP) telling me how I see things.
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Actually, I was going broader in scope Willie Horton, the ads Jesse Helms ran against Harvey Gant, etc.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
I think it's also hitting on an issue that affects quite a number of people (Alzheimers, Parkinson's, etc.) and putting up a commonly liked celebrity for the cause.

I think with Amendment 2 already on the ballot there in MO, the Pro-Life crowd will already turn out in numbers. All this did was attempt to pin the extremist "against helping people" label on those groups and try to galvanize the middle to sympathize with their position on the Senate race.
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Locally, I think you're probably right . . . The angle I'm talking about is that one of the byproducts of this flap is that it has now become a national story which I don't think the Democrats really like since it is more or less a distraction.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Did they tell you how you saw things? I missed that. Maybe they're tired of you telling them how you see things. It works both ways. I think race has been a subtle issue in this campaign. With ads like this, they've been tossed out there and dangled only to do their damage before being pulled.

Corker himself thought this ad was inappropriate. I find it telling that the RNC can put their name on this commercial but somehow blame some loophole in the laws they helped push to say they had nothing to do with this ad.
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They are saying how "people" will perceive the ad. They are saying it will stir feelings of interracial relationships. It did no such thing for me and I would imagine it didn't for a great many people.

The problem with racial allegations is the blanket and cavalier way in which they are thrown out.
 
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volinbham said:
My comment applies to them as well. This is the core of PC problems.
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Oh, I see. Anyone who dares question the tactics of scum like Ken Mehlman and Karl rove is being PC. Well, I guess that makes me extremely politically correct.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Oh, I see. Anyone who dares question the tactics of scum like Ken Mehlman and Karl rove is being PC. Well, I guess that makes me extremely politically correct.
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Well of course that's not what I've said but strawmen arguments are always easier to attack.
 
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GAVol said:
Locally, I think you're probably right . . . The angle I'm talking about is that one of the byproducts of this flap is that it has now become a national story which I don't think the Democrats really like since it is more or less a distraction.
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It is a national story but no local races are picking up on this from what I've seen. Had this been a campaign issue this year, it would have had the effect the GOP would hope for. BUt I don't see this going beyond dinner table conversations or message boards like this.
 
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volinbham said:
It did no such thing for me and I would imagine it didn't for a great many people.

The problem with racial allegations is the blanket and cavalier way in which they are thrown out.
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So basically you are saying if it did nothing for you and you assume it didn't for anyone else that it is unnecessary and is wrecklessly tossed out without merit? You are saying they are determining what people think but on the flipside you are making the same notion. You are trying to determine what is said based on your own PC feelings.
 
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Bottom line: Rush is a douchebag and those that defend him should be ashamed of themselves. :hi:
 
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CSpindizzy said:
So basically you are saying if it did nothing for you and you assume it didn't for anyone else that it is unnecessary and is wrecklessly tossed out without merit? You are saying they are determining what people think but on the flipside you are making the same notion. You are trying to determine what is said based on your own PC feelings.
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No. What I'm saying is I personally know of no-one that took the ad that way. Do you? Does the NAACP, Lou Dobbs, etc. Or do they think that some unamed masses WILL think that way therefore we must condemn the tactic as racist.

Who are the people that would think negatively of Ford based on that ad - due to seeing a white women saying calling me stirring feelings of anger regarding interracial relationships? Where is the evidence to support the allegation?

Further, now would anyone that voted Coker be suspect as being racist?

As in the TO/Sheridan event. Tony Dungy objected saying "other people" will see it a certain way. Who are those people? It's easy to throw out the allegation.
 
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OWB said:
Bottom line: Rush is a douchebag and those that defend him should be ashamed of themselves. :hi:
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Let's look at this matchup:
Rush Limbaugh-Undereducated, blowhard junkie.
Michael J. Fox-Celebrity using his platform to raise awareness of the need for more research into a debilitating disease.
Your choice, America.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I don't know about that. Commercials with racist overtones and ones that accuse war heroes of cowardice seem to get the GOP base pretty fired up.
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hat, we have finally found common ground.

These GOP commercials and talking point "nudges" are designed to wake up their own base. Whether its about Hillary Clinton and plastic surgery, Ford dating white women, or attacking (yet another) celebrity for endorsing a Democrat, the goal is the same --- warn the base that they need to come out to protect their own and folks that "think" like they do.

Funny story. A month ago, the Republicans were all over the news channels and political commentary shows swearing that the election had nothing to do with a referendum on Bush. It was all about politics being local and how folks in West Virginia would vote for a Congressman based on what he could do for that district, not whater to curb the power of the Rove juggernaut or put a check on Bush in Iraq.

That didn't work.

So now, two weeks out, its all about warning the base that they need to turn out and vote to keep Pelosi and the liberals from getting any control. It went from "This is not about Bush" to being "If you vote for a Democrat, then Pelosi will try to impeach Bush."

Listen to any of the radio guys they have in their hip pocket: Sean Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, etc. Its all the same tired mantra that all Democrats are gay-loving, race-baiting, weak-kneed, tax and spend liberals.

And of course a huge part of that ploy is to trot out the usual suspects: run a commercial with a racial overtone to it and, when called on it, go "nah, it was just funny" and of course in the meantime a few more million of the otherwise bored Republicans sit up and go, "hey, yeah, I need to vote to keep them out of office."

Or they throw out there, like chum in the water, that Hillary Clinton might have had plastic surgery. Know what? They don't think she did. They don't even care. They just want there to be air time spent on speculating why this is coming up now. Know why? So that a few more million otherwise bored Republicans will sit up and go "Hey, yeah, I don't like the Clintons. Got to go vote so they don't come back into power."

Sad thing is, the Democrats are (as usual) allowing themselves to be taken off message by this tactic. A month ago, Democrats had all the momentum because they (correctly) talked about the Culture of Corruption of the GOP in Congress. Folks bought itno that -- why? Because its true.

But now, now that the Repoublicans have gone right back to trotting out the usual suspects, which is to say keeping the blacks, women, and Hollywood out of power, the Republican base is stirring.

Again.
 
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volinbham said:
Who are the people that would think negatively of Ford based on that ad - due to seeing a white women saying calling me stirring feelings of anger regarding interracial relationships? Where is the evidence to support the allegation?
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That's the way things work now on both sides . . . It's not whether or not something is true . . . It's that there is an irresistible opportunity to hurl a charge.
 
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lawgator1 said:
These GOP commercials and talking point "nudges" are designed to wake up their own base. Whether its about Hillary Clinton and plastic surgery, Ford dating white women, or attacking (yet another) celebrity for endorsing a Democrat, the goal is the same --- warn the base that they need to come out to protect their own and folks that "think" like they do.
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Would you consider the NAACP response or other dems also "nudging" the base to suggest that them Republicans are just a bunch of racists? :question:
 
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GAVol said:
That's the way things work now on both sides . . . It's not whether or not something is true . . . It's that there is an irresistible opportunity to hurl a charge.
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See mine above. Just talking about it is what they want. In fact, they are delighted that it has generated constroversy because now the issue is whether the Democrats are too touchy about race.
 
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volinbham said:
Would you consider the NAACP response or other dems also "nudging" the base to suggest that them Republicans are just a bunch of racists? :question:
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Againm it isn't about whether its true. All they want is to have it "talked about." Look at your own post -- it suggests that, as there is no merit to the charge that the commercial was racist, we have yet another black man falsely claiming racism.

And we need to stop that by not voting one into power.
 
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