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GVF, what is your stance? are you happy w/ fulmer and co. or are you ready for a change? I can't tell if you're just wanting to bust my rationale or you agree that they have to get their butts in gear and make ut UT again.


Only HAT does that crap. I'm not a "Fulmerite," nor an anti. I think he has done an excellent job as a whole over the years, although the last 8 have been dry as far as titles. I think he lost grip. I think he was privately told to wipe his butt and get it together or get on. He has a fired up demeanor he hasn't shown in a long time, but still covers for everyone. But, I think, also, if this is as good as his improvements get, then he would need to move on. Get better or get worse. But, don't keep bringing the same old thing. I'm a hold out in lieu of nothing better as a whole being out there. HC, maybe. But, then once that happens, Chavis, Cut, Taylor, etc.? What will you end up with? An NC State. A Clemson. A Nebraska. A Georgia (before Richt obviously).
 
I did see your post. I just wanted to get that analogy out there so that I have a standard response to the Polyanna position taken by the Fulmerites on record.


But, I'm not a Fulmerite. Nor an Anti. I'm pro-Vol. So, what does quoting an obvious sarcastic response of mine have to do with your reasoning. A reasoning I've yet to decipher. sounds like circles a lawyer would draw...
 
so when can we decide he's not improving any further? my stance is that we weren't improving from 00-04, then officially fell apart and now things are back to sitting in the middle again. i think we have to beat florida next year and at least be in the SECCG and get an at large BCS... enough is enough and it's time for a change
 
so when can we decide he's not improving any further? my stance is that we weren't improving from 00-04, then officially fell apart and now things are back to sitting in the middle again. i think we have to beat florida next year and at least be in the SECCG and get an at large BCS... enough is enough and it's time for a change


In certain respects, sitting in the middle is sort of improving from where things finally fell. If you could go from sinner to saved without travelling the road of redemption, you'd be God. But, I personally, if I was a decision maker, would be running very thin in hte next 2 seasons without seeing something better than this. Conditioning, and not having injuries as an excuse is all but distant histroical lore. There's just alot of stuff, but I don't think those in power are done filling the suitcase full of goodies. A quickand irrational firing would go against the admin. This one is more than titles, it will be political.
 
If you really want to complain about someone in the program... complain about the idiot who does the scheduling.

It is time to clue in... you don't get punished for playing a couple of real losers including a 1AA team. The teams that do prevent injuries and get their back-up players significant time on the field.

UT next year will play Cal, So Miss, No Illinois, and La-Lafayette. Only the last one should be a complete laugher. The others could rise up and beat UT or at the very least match up physically enough to risk injuries.

UT needs to take a page out of everyone else's book and put a SEMO or WCU on the schedule in the middle to get healthy with a near guaranteed win. LSU and Auburn have made a living on those kinds of OOC games.

Why beat your football team up every week if there's no benefit?
 
If you really want to complain about someone in the program... complain about the idiot who does the scheduling.

It is time to clue in... you don't get punished for playing a couple of real losers including a 1AA team. The teams that do prevent injuries and get their back-up players significant time on the field.

UT next year will play Cal, So Miss, No Illinois, and La-Lafayette. Only the last one should be a complete laugher. The others could rise up and beat UT or at the very least match up physically enough to risk injuries.

UT needs to take a page out of everyone else's book and put a SEMO or WCU on the schedule in the middle to get healthy with a near guaranteed win. LSU and Auburn have made a living on those kinds of OOC games.

Why beat your football team up every week if there's no benefit?



Bowl selection for SEC teams. AU and LSU both had trouble getting chosen for the title game with those weak teams the last few years.
 
But, I'm not a Fulmerite. Nor an Anti. I'm pro-Vol. So, what does quoting an obvious sarcastic response of mine have to do with your reasoning. A reasoning I've yet to decipher. sounds like circles a lawyer would draw...
You say it in sarcasm. A great many on this board say it in all seriousness.
 
I like the fact that UT plays decent out-of-conference opponents and never stoops to a I-AA team. UT is so far from competing from a national title right now that it's not like a loss would matter much in THAT department. And besides, why charge your fans full price to sit there and watch a scrimmage?

That said, if they're going to keep this convoluted system for determining who plays in the championship game, they need to add some component to reward teams that play tough OOC games. Early-season games like UT/Cal and Ohio State/Texas are great; the system should reward teams that have the stones to schedule those games, instead of just pounding on another directional school.
 
I like the fact that UT plays decent out-of-conference opponents and never stoops to a I-AA team. UT is so far from competing from a national title right now that it's not like a loss would matter much in THAT department. And besides, why charge your fans full price to sit there and watch a scrimmage?

That said, if they're going to keep this convoluted system for determining who plays in the championship game, they need to add some component to reward teams that play tough OOC games. Early-season games like UT/Cal and Ohio State/Texas are great; the system should reward teams that have the stones to schedule those games, instead of just pounding on another directional school.


I'm in that bandwagon if any. I like the toufg schedule. I like the excitement of trying to see that pulled off. Honestly, I remember opening with Alcorn State and Cal before they moved up to 5A HS. The stands were not full. It was boring. No wonder the tix were a gift. I like the fact that no one can accuse us of having the same schedule as ND, WV, and Rutgers. As well as UF, UGA, AU, LSU. I'm disappointed to see some of next years OOC matchups.
 
If you really want to complain about someone in the program... complain about the idiot who does the scheduling.

It is time to clue in... you don't get punished for playing a couple of real losers including a 1AA team. The teams that do prevent injuries and get their back-up players significant time on the field.

UT next year will play Cal, So Miss, No Illinois, and La-Lafayette. Only the last one should be a complete laugher. The others could rise up and beat UT or at the very least match up physically enough to risk injuries.

UT needs to take a page out of everyone else's book and put a SEMO or WCU on the schedule in the middle to get healthy with a near guaranteed win. LSU and Auburn have made a living on those kinds of OOC games.

Why beat your football team up every week if there's no benefit?
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UT has lost enough respect with recent shortcomings. Scheduling pathetic opponents will not help that. Everytime I think about Auburn being a legitimate national champ in 2004, I remember that they played the Citadel that year. They got an SEC championship for playing SEC opponents. They didn't play anyone else that was nationally relevant. That's why they weren't qualified to be national champs.
 

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