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#102
#102
Lexvol said:
I will say that I feel burned. After 2004 and with the returning defense, it was justifiable for me (though not completely reasonable considering RS remained) to assume UT would compete on the same level with that Auburn team that they faced in the SEC championship game as early as 05.

Now, when backed against the wall UT has no real answer for the upper echelon of the SEC, and I do not see that changing with the returning defensive and offensive line in 07.

Not only that, the further we go into the season, and the tougher the opponents have gotten, it appears as though CPF's influence over the handling of the offense is getting greater. I saw no way of justifying running the ball in the second half against Arky. All in all I would say the Vols are no closer to an SEC championship than they were in 04.
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Now those are reasonable points. And in turn I'd say with Ainge we've averaged over 30 ppg. Overall still in the mid to high 20's. You produce that much in a one year turn around and still lose 3? With 2 games remaining that both beat UGA and gave others a run for their money?
 
#103
#103
again, there's no reason to have to make a turnaround and UGA is just a name this year
 
#105
#105
GVF said:
Now those are reasonable points. And in turn I'd say with Ainge we've averaged over 30 ppg. Overall still in the mid to high 20's. You produce that much in a one year turn around and still lose 3? With 2 games remaining that both beat UGA and gave others a run for their money?
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The offense is better...but it really had nowhere to go but up. Ainge was very shaky in the Bama and SC games. Still nowhere near winning the line of scrimmage against top opponents on either side of the ball.

This is a gunslinging offense. I think the fact that UT tried to run the ball in the second half against Arky is what really pisses me off. That screamed regression to me.
 
#106
#106
volfanbill said:
again, there's no reason to have to make a turnaround and UGA is just a name this year
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UGA is just a name now. When we beat them, they were no. 5 and undefeated. Sometimes you have to make a turn around. Ever made mistakes and had to turn yourself around, or are you inevitably perfect or at worst 10-1 good to bad year in and out.
 
#107
#107
UGA is name now and had florida, vandy and others played them b4 us they would've just been a name when we faced them. they hadn't played anyone yet. kind of like us last year. cal this year. don't go by your preseason polls
 
#108
#108
Lexvol said:
The offense is better...but it really had nowhere to go but up. Ainge was very shaky in the Bama and SC games. Still nowhere near winning the line of scrimmage against top opponents on either side of the ball.

This is a gunslinging offense. I think the fact that UT tried to run the ball in the second half against Arky is what really pisses me off. That screamed regression to me.
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That's where Cut will show his inbred nature. He does not like to get handled, and has at times to a fault, and to the point of blowing chances to come back, pushed the run to prove he can do it. He does hold the old school that if you don't run you don't pass. His discipline is the major factor of improvement and his mechanicals with QB's. Not his playbook.
 
#109
#109
ps. either way we got extremely lucky by a stupid call from AF's coach, ND had no trouble w/ AF at all
 
#110
#110
GVF said:
That's where Cut will show his inbred nature. He does not like to get handled, and has at times to a fault, and to the point of blowing chances to come back, pushed the run to prove he can do it. He does hold the old school that if you don't run you don't pass. His discipline is the major factor of improvement and his mechanicals with QB's. Not his playbook.
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which makes me wonder if we should've (i know he would never have went for it) only got Cut to be the qb coach and somehow got an OC as well. Cut's playbook hurts us. It hurt us 10 years ago the first time around.
 
#111
#111
volfanbill said:
UGA is name now and had florida, vandy and others played them b4 us they would've just been a name when we faced them. they hadn't played anyone yet. kind of like us last year. cal this year. don't go by your preseason polls
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I didn't. Said they were #5 when we played them.
 
#112
#112
but they were number 5 because they were up there to begin with, hadn't played anybody, honestly didn't look great against those nobodies but couldn't drop too far without a loss. They then faced a decent team in UT and look what happened.
 
#113
#113
volfanbill said:
ps. either way we got extremely lucky by a stupid call from AF's coach, ND had no trouble w/ AF at all
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P.S. - A "W" spelled out looks like this...WIN. All those Gators are downing their one point win over us I bet. There darn glad to have at this point, and I'll take a 1 point win over AF verses saying were 6-4. If it's not our coaches fault for losing to someone else, It's always the other coaches fault for barely losing to us and then getting waxed in other arenas.
 
#114
#114
good points man.. That being said, my overall point remains b4 you wanted to bash it. Someone listed 20 teams or so that were ahead of us saying they had crappy schedules and I used the AF as proof we wouldn't beat ND this year. Fat Charley and all his cheeseburgers would turn Quinn and Co. loose and have a field day on O. It'd be 41-30 ND (that's w/ us having a healthy ainge)
 
#115
#115
volfanbill said:
but they were number 5 because they were up there to begin with, hadn't played anybody, honestly didn't look great against those nobodies but couldn't drop too far without a loss. They then faced a decent team in UT and look what happened.
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By that same logic then UF, LSU, and ARKY's wins over us, at times we were ranked quite well except for UF, is crap to them because we struggled against AF. Well, we only beat AF by 1, UF only beat us by one, so they suck too. LSU didn't really beat a #7 team AT THE TIME by only 3 or 4 because we now have 3 losses.
 
#116
#116
volfanbill said:
good points man.. That being said, my overall point remains b4 you wanted to bash it. Someone listed 20 teams or so that were ahead of us saying they had crappy schedules and I used the AF as proof we wouldn't beat ND this year. Fat Charley and all his cheeseburgers would turn Quinn and Co. loose and have a field day on O. It'd be 41-30 ND (that's w/ us having a healthy ainge)
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I say we'd beat ND because we've been in dog fights several times and the only formidable opponent they faced to date, they got sodomized. Plus they had a less than sober come from behinder against a team they should have beat in the parking lot on the way to the locker rooms. The difference in our game verses theirs on AF is moot. One game does not create auto-loss.
 
#117
#117
i'll agree LSU didn't really beat a number 7 at the time. I'll agree florida showed they aren't quite NC contedner worthy either... Arkansas sure showed it though.
 
#118
#118
Georgia Tech is no pushover, they have this really good receiver, you might have heard of him
 
#123
#123
hatvol96 said:
Puke smells better than crap. However, I don't give someone credit for vomiting in my bathroom instead of dropping a load.
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Uhhhh...Did you catch the post a few below that where I said I was being sarcastic.

I could not imagine anyone choosing to vomit in your bathroom instead of a dump. I'd leave both.:birgits_giggle:
 
#124
#124
GVF, what is your stance? are you happy w/ fulmer and co. or are you ready for a change? I can't tell if you're just wanting to bust my rationale or you agree that they have to get their butts in gear and make ut UT again.
 
#125
#125
GVF said:
Uhhhh...Did you catch the post a few below that where I said I was being sarcastic.

I could not imagine anyone choosing to vomit in your bathroom instead of a dump. I'd leave both.:birgits_giggle:
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I did see your post. I just wanted to get that analogy out there so that I have a standard response to the Polyanna position taken by the Fulmerites on record.
 
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