Looks like Jimbo Fisher is out.

[spyfish007]

I think the only way to curb the insane coaching contracts is to work in some type of incentive clause, even into the buyouts. I don't think the established coaches would take it at first, but if you start with the up and comers, and get it to be standard practice you could start to see things even out.

Something like your buyout for being fired is your winning percentage of your remaining contract, or whatever is agreed upon. you win 30% of your games, you get 30% of your buy out. Or a fixed dollar amount, you win X games, you get X dollars, or something.

I really think the dominance of Saban and now Smart have ruined the sport. Schools feel like they should be able to find their own Saban/Smart. The bar has risen so high that what was acceptable or good, is not good enough.

Sure if you can negotiate that clause. Right now I don't see any proof that could happen and there is no university collusion happening. They all want what the other one has!

 

[spyfish007]

Except next guy up prob won't get the Jimbo buyout.

You said probably so yeah plenty of wiggle room in your statement.

If a big name will get a great package. Some up and come, maybe. Depends on how desperate ATM gets. How much will an existing university want to lose their coach? Lots of factors. Just get your popcorn ready. You are only crazy if you think it is not possible.

 

[LouderVol]

Sure if you can negotiate that clause. Right now I don't see any proof that could happen and there is no university collusion happening. They all want what the other one has!

thats why I am saying to start with the up and comers. they guys looking for their shot.

you could also tie a large dollar amount to it as incentive as well. Sit two contracts in front of them. The standard guaranteed for X, and then the incentive based contract for X+1 million a year. it saves the schools money in the long run, and it gives the coaches a $ reason to take it.

 

[spyfish007]

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thats why I am saying to start with the up and comers. they guys looking for their shot.

you could also tie a large dollar amount to it as incentive as well. Sit two contracts in front of them. The standard guaranteed for X, and then the incentive based contract for X+1 million a year. it saves the schools money in the long run, and it gives the coaches a $ reason to take it.

I hear you. If I am the agent, I'm calling them out and saying you are going cheap on my guy. The going rate is XX and you have a history having a short trigger finger on coaches. My guy needs guarantees.

 

[LouderVol]

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I hear you. If I am the agent, I'm calling them out and saying you are going cheap on my guy. The going rate is XX and you have a history having a short trigger finger on coaches. My guy needs guarantees.

and as the school I would tell him I am paying him to win games, not to lose them and walk away. He wins, and he gets his XX rate, nothing cheap there. and if you aren't happy with it you can stay at the G5/coordinator level.

heck I would even prefer it if the incentive paid into the pay check as well. you get X guaranteed, with an extra percentage for every game over Y%, and the inverse is for every game under Y% the buyout goes down. that's how these contracts are balanced, if you want guaranteed you get a smaller dollar than if it wasn't guaranteed.

 

[spyfish007]

and as the school I would tell him I am paying him to win games, not to lose them and walk away. He wins, and he gets his XX rate, nothing cheap there. and if you aren't happy with it you can stay at the G5/coordinator level.

heck I would even prefer it if the incentive paid into the pay check as well. you get X guaranteed, with an extra percentage for every game over Y%, and the inverse is for every game under Y% the buyout goes down. that's how these contracts are balanced, if you want guaranteed you get a smaller dollar than if it wasn't guaranteed.

XX rate is the non incentive based rate. My guy is a hot ticket and he will wait. This is who will flinch. I am betting ATM flinches.

 

[LouderVol]

XX rate is the non incentive based rate. My guy is a hot ticket and he will wait. This is who will flinch. I am betting ATM flinches.

and I would let him.

I have suspected all along that they will hire Petrino back on the cheap. The going rate on him is exactly nada, and they can sell it to him as an opportunity to clear his name.

 

[05_never_again]

I think there is for Kiffin. He's already moaning about NIL and how hard it is to recruit to Ole Miss. Both problems much improved at A&M

Just imagine if he did get offered the A&M job. That would mean over the last 15 years, he will have served as:

- an NFL head coach
- a Pac 12 head coach at their flagship program
- an OC during Alabama's dynastic run, winning a national title
- an SEC head coach at 3 different schools, 2 of them being premier programs

The only things he's actually won as a HC are at FAU. That list isn't even mentioning his FAU stint. It's amazing how far you can go if you interview well and are perceived to have an "edge."

 

[spyfish007]

and I would let him.

I have suspected all along that they will hire Petrino back on the cheap. The going rate on him is exactly nada, and they can sell it to him as an opportunity to clear his name.

If they hire Petrino then they are to be mocked! I am not poking fun at you calling the shot, but rather the shot itself!

 

[Vol737]

He won the NC three years after Bowden was forced out. Made it into the CFP 4 years after. It's not accurate to say those were Bowden's players

I was thinking it was year two. Nonetheless some of Bowden’s players were still on the roster, but it doesn’t matter. The point remains. He’s just not a good head coach and has now been incredibly mediocre, so f not worse, at two big programs.

 

[Proud Army Wife]

Neighbor is a big A&M booster. He "claims" that they are gonna make a run at Dabo.

Actually, it kind of makes sense I guess. He's getting fed up with Clemson fans.

I personally suggested Gruden. He did not get the joke.

Dabo would be a huge mistake. He’s a dinosaur stuck in his ways much like Jimbo.

 

[stolitonic]

Dabo would be a huge mistake. He’s a dinosaur stuck in his ways much like Jimbo.

I dunno. I am no fan of Dabo-to me he just comes off as fake, but I do not believe that he is an idiot.

The near future outlook for Clemson is not good. FSU is obviously back up and UT is starting to get a bit of momentum. Generally when both us and FSU have both been "up", Clemson is a .500 or worse program.

The man may very well move on just to see that he remains gainfully employed. Clemson is going through some serious delusions of grandeur right now in their fanbase.

 

[Volfan1000]

There is no incentive for anyone on that list except Traylor to leave their current school for A&M. And even that may be suspect.

Traylor would keep most of the Texas kids in state.

 

[stolitonic]

Lol. Looks like A&M fans are beginning the process of scouring flight plans for info lol. They found a private flight today between Athens and the College Station area.

Got to say, pretty dang glad to not be in that spot at the moment ha ha

 

[LouderVol]

Lol. Looks like A&M fans are beginning the process of scouring flight plans for info lol. They found a private flight today between Athens and the College Station area.

Got to say, pretty dang glad to not be in that spot at the moment ha ha

It would have to be absolutely stupid money to hire Smart away. Now maybe one of his coordinators? Sure I could see that.

 

[GoDucks349]

Just imagine if he did get offered the A&M job. That would mean over the last 15 years, he will have served as:

- an NFL head coach
- a Pac 12 head coach at their flagship program
- an OC during Alabama's dynastic run, winning a national title
- an SEC head coach at 3 different schools, 2 of them being premier programs

The only things he's actually won as a HC are at FAU. That list isn't even mentioning his FAU stint. It's amazing how far you can go if you interview well and are perceived to have an "edge."

Kiffin was never head coach at Oregon.

 

[Plecoptera]

Lol. Looks like A&M fans are beginning the process of scouring flight plans for info lol. They found a private flight today between Athens and the College Station area.

Got to say, pretty dang glad to not be in that spot at the moment ha ha

It’s fun to watch other programs go through coaching searches. Us longtime Vol fans have a lot of experience in that area. Flight tracking, rumors, “insiders”, etc. UT knows how to do a wild coaching search. Think about all the craziness we’ve lived through.

 

[stolitonic]

It’s fun to watch other programs go through coaching searches. Us longtime Vol fans have a lot of experience in that area. Flight tracking, rumors, “insiders”, etc. UT knows how to do a wild coaching search. Think about all the craziness we’ve lived through.

Yeah, the whole Schiano Sunday thing was insane.

Never seen anything like that in my life lol.

I dunno what was worse, the fact that we tried to hire that loser in the first place or Currie panicking after the fans collectively said aww hell naw.

 

[LouderVol]

Yeah, the whole Schiano Sunday thing was insane.

Never seen anything like that in my life lol.

I dunno what was worse, the fact that we tried to hire that loser in the first place or Currie panicking after the fans collectively said aww hell naw.

I think the reason it worked was because support was already failing. If they did something to tick off another segment of the fan, like hiring a terrible candidate like Schiano, it would have hurt their bottom line. not just ticket sails, but donations too. Thats been one of Danny White's biggest challenges and accomplishments, getting the donations back. They were hurting during the AD Fulmer era.

 

[onthehill71]

It would have to be absolutely stupid money to hire Smart away. Now maybe one of his coordinators? Sure I could see that.

They have absolutely stupid money and not afraid to spend it. Throw $100 m guaranteed to any coach and see what happens.

 

[Vol737]

I’m sure it was satire, but somebody put out Muschamp’s name as him having been in college station this week. Please let that be true, if only for the hilarity that would ensue.

 

[turbovol]

Yeah, the whole Schiano Sunday thing was insane.

Never seen anything like that in my life lol.

I dunno what was worse, the fact that we tried to hire that loser in the first place or Currie panicking after the fans collectively said aww hell naw.

Currie and the Chancellor letting crazy fans some idiots in the Tennessee legislature cow them into pulling the offer was stupid. But let's also remember that Fulmer was in the Chancellor's ear and no doubt working to undercut Currie. And we saw how all that idiocy played out--Fulmer hired as AD and Cornbread hired as our coach. Not UT's finest moment...

 

[LouderVol]

They have absolutely stupid money and not afraid to spend it. Throw $100 m guaranteed to any coach and see what happens.

pretty sure Smart is already there.

Full details of Kirby Smart contract released by Georgia football program

GEorgia football coach Kirby Smart has a new contract that will pay him $112.5 million over the course of the 10-year deal.

www.dawgnation.com

I would think you would have to double his current pay to get him away.

Jimbo has been struggling for years, this year wasn't an outlier that got him fired. If the money was no concern at all he would have been fired last year. Having the money to spend, and being willing to spend it are two different things.

 

[stolitonic]

pretty sure Smart is already there.

Full details of Kirby Smart contract released by Georgia football program

GEorgia football coach Kirby Smart has a new contract that will pay him $112.5 million over the course of the 10-year deal.

www.dawgnation.com

I would think you would have to double his current pay to get him away.

Jimbo has been struggling for years, this year wasn't an outlier that got him fired. If the money was no concern at all he would have been fired last year. Having the money to spend, and being willing to spend it are two different things.

Woooooow. The Kirbster only has a $5 million buyout??

Perhaps someone should alert Georgia fans that they need to check the academic credentials of their AD. Regardless of where he claims he received an education-apparrently he graduated from the Mike Hamilton School of Contract Writing.

 

[volfanhill]

Woooooow. The Kirbster only has a $5 million buyout??

Perhaps someone should alert Georgia fans that they need to check the academic credentials of their AD. Regardless of where he claims he received an education-apparrently he graduated from the Mike Hamilton School of Contract Writing.

What makes you think the AD didn't try to go higher and Kirby said nope? Would you be willing to let him walk over his end of a buyout?