LSU beats Bama

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#107
Crazy stats in the broadcast. Bama has put 142 players in the nfl in the last 10 years. If this numbers hold true, 50 players on this roster will be drafted. Insanity.
 
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#113
Electric Orange said:
Tua has never played in Death Valley at night. The way some of you talk makes it sound like Bama should just be declared the champs and not bother playing anyone else since they're the finest most invincible team to ever step foot on a field. Gimme a break. That defense is good but not even Saban's best. Tua is a little gimpy, and if the crowd and press coverage can throw off his rhythm, LSU has a shot. Stranger things have happened.
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Nailed it
 
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BearCat204 said:
Nailed it
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There was so much false hype leading up to this game. I was literally rolling my eyes all week listening to sports radio in the mornings.

I think going forward it’s going to be Bama every year. I don’t see them losing this year or next. Pretty sure they get all their WR back next year and Tua. Defense and run game will always be solid.

CFB has gotten boring and not fun in the least for everybody else. It’s a perpetual run for second every year.
 
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Electric Orange said:
Tua has never played in Death Valley at night. The way some of you talk makes it sound like Bama should just be declared the champs and not bother playing anyone else since they're the finest most invincible team to ever step foot on a field. Gimme a break. That defense is good but not even Saban's best. Tua is a little gimpy, and if the crowd and press coverage can throw off his rhythm, LSU has a shot. Stranger things have happened.
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Another example of the belief that fans have an effect on the outcome of the game.

Ala**** - 29
LSU - 0
LSU Fans - 500,000 beers drank, 0 wins
 
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#117
volfanhill said:
Bama had 12 players drafted off of last years and they still look like the most dominate team by far. Crazy!
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It's a factory. Don't know any other way to put it. Interchangeable parts. You'd have to remove probably the 6 or 7 best players off their starting 22 before you started to notice a drop off in performance. Alabama last year had a guy (Joshua Frazier) who made 2nd string DT by his senior year drafted in the 7th round. 4th ranked DT in the entire country coming out of high school. He basically never started his entire college career. If he was at Tennessee, or a lot of other places, he probably would've seen significant playing time as a true freshman and would be expected to be a huge cog on the defense by his sophomore year.

I've found it interesting that their most notable, dynamic players at the NFL level are WRs (Julio Jones, Amari Cooper, Calvin Ridley) and they aren't even a passing team. Their running backs have ranged anywhere from serviceable to total busts, but the WRs have turned into some of the best players at their positions. They just churn out studs at the line of scrimmage, at WR, and in the secondary.
 
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#118
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#119
hndog609 said:
This approach would have me believe that the 1996 Memphis Tigers were actually a better team than we were. I simply cannot accept that as fact.
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Let’s take it further. Auburn was better than Alabama last year. Pitt was better than Clemson in 2016. Ole Miss was better than Alabama in 2015. Virginia Tech was better than Ohio State in 2014. FSU was the last undefeated national champion in 2013. The only legitimate one, obviously. I’ll call this train of illogic what it is: sour grapes. The guy doesn’t want to respect that Alabama won the championship, so they weren’t even the best team in the state no matter what else happened.
 
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#120
Vol_Maul said:
Let’s take it further. Auburn was better than Alabama last year. Pitt was better than Clemson in 2016. Ole Miss was better than Alabama in 2015. Virginia Tech was better than Ohio State in 2014. FSU was the last undefeated national champion in 2013. The only legitimate one, obviously. I’ll call this train of illogic what it is: sour grapes. The guy doesn’t want to respect that Alabama won the championship, so they weren’t even the best team in the state no matter what else happened.
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I fully respect that Bama won the championship.

Follow the logic the the other way. Team A beats Team B on the field of play, yet Team A is worse than Team B?

Like I said, if two teams play 10 games and one wins 9, we obviously know who is better. Same with best of 5, 3, etc.. Logic follows to best of 1 as well. 1 game is a crappy sample set, and we obviously have a whole seasons worth to look at and there are plenty of variables at play in that one, single game. But at the end of the day, a sample set of 1 is better than 0.

Across the whole season, Bama was the best. Across one game, Auburn was the better team. Memphis over UT as well. It is what it is.

All we can say for sure is Auburn was better than Bama that year.
 
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rjd970 said:
Follow the logic the the other way. Team A beats Team B on the field of play, yet Team A is worse than Team B?
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Yes. Sometimes the better team doesn't win.

Across the whole season, Bama was the best. Across one game, Auburn was the better team. Memphis over UT as well.

All we can say for sure is Auburn was better than Bama that year.
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That was a quick contradiction. Nicely done.
 
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rjd970 said:
Sometimes the better team doesn’t win. Correct. In this case you have an opinion and I have a score.
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You said Bama was the better team over the whole season. Those were your words.

You can't point to a one game sample as definitive and still deny the transitive property. The two can't be separated.
 
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bamawriter said:
You said Bama was the better team over the whole season. Those were your words.

You can't point to a one game sample as definitive and still deny the transitive property. The two can't be separated.
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What are you talking about? Auburn was better than Bama that year but Bama was the better team over the season. Nothing at all contradictory about that. There is plenty of evidence to suggest UT was better than more than a few UF teams they lost to over the last 20 years. Yet in any given year UF fans will, rightfully so, say they were better than UT.
 
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rjd970 said:
What are you talking about? Auburn was better than Bama that year but Bama was the better team over the season. Nothing at all contradictory about that. There is plenty of evidence to suggest UT was better than more than a few UF teams they lost to over the last 20 years. Yet in any given year UF fans will, rightfully so, say they were better than UT.
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Bama was better but Auburn was better than Bama. Nope, not contradiction there.

One game does not, necessarily, prove who was better. The better team doesn't always win.

To say that Auburn beat Bama, Bama beat Clemson and LSU, and Clemson and LSU beat Auburn is a factual statement that doesn't defy logic.

To say that Auburn was better than Bama, Bama was better than Clemson and LSU, and Clemson and LSU were better than Auburn is a logical turd.
 
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