Lsu players only meeting

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jeff1vol said:
I have a feeling this is what was said... Daniels- "I haven't thrown the ball down field at all this year and some of you are pissed (que Boutte)." "I PROMISE you, THIS Saturday I'll be slinging that tater and you MFer's better catch the damn thing against this horrid secondary!!!"
WR's- "YEAH BABY!!! WOOOOO HOOOOOO! SLIIIIIIIING IT, DANIELS!!!!!"
Or something like that.
Anyway... I would put my mortgage payment up to bet that LSU will, in fact, do something that they haven't done ALL year and that is... throw it down field. Our DB's better have their jocks strapped tight! And our coaches (Banks and Martinez) had best be expecting it!! This isn't going to be a surprise.
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They have been throwing the ball downfield. He just hasn’t connected on many of them. It’s not like they throw out patterns and screens every play.
 
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LSU WRs might be softest position group in all of football. They all think they are OBJ, Chase, and Jefferson without doing anything on the field. If we come out quick they will melt down on the sidelines and quit.
 
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The Original Fade said:
Players only meetings are almost always good things. It’s where leaders step and lead. When I played baseball at Belmont many years ago we were just going through the motions and losing game after game one year. We had a players only meeting to air some grievances, some leaders stepped up and we won the next day 22-1.
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So your anecdote means it is almost always a good thing? Sometimes it is. But it is almost always an indication that there is some poisonous attitude that needs to be confronted. If the strongest leaders are aligned with the ideas and vision of the coaches then players confronting peers over not being on board can sometimes get guys in line and especially if there's affirmation by a lot of the team. But that's not always the case.

This also telegraphs to the UT coaching staff that they need to clamp down as hard as they can on Boutte. He's not happy and you can be sure that assurances were made that he would get the ball more.
 
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Yanks24 said:
They have been throwing the ball downfield. He just hasn’t connected on many of them. It’s not like they throw out patterns and screens every play.
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Do you have the stats for that? Not disagreeing with you. I'd just like to know what % of success they have throwing downfield. Just watching them- they do seem to throw a lot of short stuff.
 
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Yeah, I'm sure there are cases when the "players' only meeting" helps and is a good thing but every time I've ever heard of it is when the team sucks and they're trying to resolve "locker room issues". Not saying LSU sucks but not convinced this is a good thing for them and we should be afraid either.
 
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I don't see how a players only meeting is a positive in this instance. Especially when the coach is such a d--- and the players most likely can't stand him.
 
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jeff1vol said:
I have a feeling this is what was said... Daniels- "I haven't thrown the ball down field at all this year and some of you are pissed (que Boutte)." "I PROMISE you, THIS Saturday I'll be slinging that tater and you MFer's better catch the damn thing against this horrid secondary!!!"
WR's- "YEAH BABY!!! WOOOOO HOOOOOO! SLIIIIIIIING IT, DANIELS!!!!!"
Or something like that.
Anyway... I would put my mortgage payment up to bet that LSU will, in fact, do something that they haven't done ALL year and that is... throw it down field. Our DB's better have their jocks strapped tight! And our coaches (Banks and Martinez) had best be expecting it!! This isn't going to be a surprise.
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please provide a screen shot of your prop bet. TIA
 
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The Original Fade said:
Players only meetings are almost always good things. It’s where leaders step and lead. When I played baseball at Belmont many years ago we were just going through the motions and losing game after game one year. We had a players only meeting to air some grievances, some leaders stepped up and we won the next day 22-1.
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Depends entirely on the leaders. If the troubled starting QB called the meeting, it could come off as desperate and trying to save his own neck. It's even worse if the coach has "inspired" the meeting, zero chance it comes off genuine.

Now if you have leaders like Trey Smith, Al Wilson, etc ... different story.
 
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The Original Fade said:
Players only meetings are almost always good things. It’s where leaders step and lead. When I played baseball at Belmont many years ago we were just going through the motions and losing game after game one year. We had a players only meeting to air some grievances, some leaders stepped up and we won the next day 22-1.
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I don't think it was the meeting, but the magical Festivus pole in the room that gave such inspiration.
 
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37620VOL said:
Depends entirely on the leaders. If the troubled starting QB called the meeting, it could come off as desperate and trying to save his own neck. It's even worse if the coach has "inspired" the meeting, zero chance it comes off genuine.

Now if you have leaders like Trey Smith, Al Wilson, etc ... different story.
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Daniels is a train wreck. He was at Arizona State too.

Dude couldn't hit a wide open man against a soft Auburn defense. I know our secondary is rough, but this guy is also not AR from Florida.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Doesn't PFF also rate the OU OL really highly too? The one that gets whipped all up and down the field?
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Not really, on the season they are all in the 60s, except for Wanya who has only played in weeks 3, 4, 5. Three of the 5 starters are in the very low 60s.

For us, Cooper and Darnell are both north of 70.
 
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37620VOL said:
Not really, on the season they are all in the 60s, except for Wanya who has only played in weeks 3, 4, 5. Three of the 5 starters are in the very low 60s.
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Maybe it was Texas that they rate up there. There's a bad Big XII team that they rate highly.

Plus I'm not sure I'd put the LSU deep threat in the 70s based on what I've seen.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Maybe it was Texas that they rate up there. There's a bad Big XII team that they rate highly.

Plus I'm not sure I'd put the LSU deep threat in the 70s based on what I've seen.
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True, 10 is a very small sample. Maybe we can do something about that rating. Guess who this is:
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(Answer: Vols)
 
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sjt18 said:
How does that compare to others like Hooker or Bennett?

According to that, 70% of his throws are under 10 yards. Not surprising for any team to be under 50% completion in deeper throws but it still seems they're far more effective short.

Also, these numbers for all teams are skewed by FCS opponents.
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Look at post 68
 
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My sources tell me the meeting was about whether to enter the transfer portal now, or wait until after the season. TIFWIW
 
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Possible meeting summaries:

1. "You guys are ruining my chances to get to the NFL. I transferred here from Arizona State because few nfl scouts watch late-night west coast games. You need to start catching these footballs I throw to you, or I'll never get drafted. Come on, dammit!"

2. "I haven't been getting you the ball well. I promise to do better."

3. "We are LSU! We're not some Group of 5 or PAC program, let's get out there and play like we're Tigers!"

4. "Please, please, get open. I'm dying in the pocket, and it's scaring the **** out of me. Please?"

I just can't come up with a message from the junior QB that doesn't smack of desperation, condemnation, cheerleading, or apology. And while any of those might work, with the right group of receivers under the right conditions, they are all more likely to make things worse over time.
 
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Here are some snooze and notes according to a source who was in the room.

QB.....you guys need to get open
WR....you need to throw me the damn ball
 
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