Lunardi's latest: Vols one of last four in

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calban said:
If you're 99.9% sure we get in with an RPI 46-50, that's good enough for me. Thought maybe you had a source.
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do you have a high major team that ever hasn't?

If we're arguing that something could happen that's never happened then ok, but the world could end tomorrow and there'd be no tourney so there's that too.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Give it up....this will go on for hours with BTO until after this season when we go d&mn we got left out with a 46 RPI. LOL
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There's a first for everything, why not us right?

If this was the opposite though, and we had a RPI of 95, I can guarantee there would be people saying.....well no team has ever gotten an at large bid with a RPI that high. No?
 
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knowthevols said:
Would have to go back and look it up, but someone posted a link for the last three years and the cut off point was 45.
Been a couple of weeks back.
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Those were of the last 4 teams in iirc, teams with worse RPIs got in, but they were better than last 4 in.

Can't remember exactly what the post was, would be interested in seeing it...
 
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calban said:
Cincy at 40.
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That was prior to it being 68 teams, I thought I already clarified that?

Highest RPI I could to be left out since RPI formula changed, and field expanded to 68, was a rpi of 56. So you're talking probably 60-75 bubble teams, and not one was left out with a RPI of worse than 56. Pretty decent sample size if you ask me.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
That was prior to it being 68 teams, I thought I already clarified that?

Highest RPI I could to be left out since RPI formula changed, and field expanded to 68, was a rpi of 56. So you're talking probably 60-75 bubble teams, and not one was left out with a RPI of worse than 56. Pretty decent sample size if you ask me.
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Plenty high enough to make a field of 64.
You need to stop talking down to people when it's just your opinion.
I mean who the F*&^k do you think you are.
 
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calban said:
Plenty high enough to make a field of 64.
You need to stop talking down to people when it's just your opinion.
I mean who the F*&^k do you think you are.
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Who's talking down?

I just feel like I'm talking in circles. Like 5 different people have mentioned Cincy or another team, but everyone they've mentioned is from pre-68 team field or pre-changed formula.

I asked a simple question pages back, what's the highest RPI team to get left out of the field of 68. Nobody wanted to answer it, everyone keeps posting mid majors or teams from a pre-68 team field.

So I went and did the research to answer my own question...since the RPI formula changed, and the field expanded to 68, no team with a RPI of worse than 56 has ever been left out of the tourney. You're talking possibly 60-75 teams on the bubble since the expansion, and none with a RPI of worse than 56 have been left out.

Now maybe that means nothing to some people, but to me that sounds like if you're RPI is inside of 50 then you've got a pretty damn good chance of making the dance, no? Like I said above, if our RPI was say 70 I can guarantee there would be posters saying no team has gotten in with a RPI higher than _____. So why is it not ok to present the facts on high majors, RPI, and the field of 68?
 
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Ok, I'm starting to sound like a broken record…but how does ESPN label OSU-Baylor a play in game?? Already talked about OSU, but look at Baylor-they have a better record than us at 14-9 and a 49 RPI. THey have 4 wins against 42 or better rpi. Their worst loss is 103 Texas Tech, and the next "bad loss" is rpi 68 West VIrginia. And their SOS is 8!! But if they lose to OSU tonight, they are out??
 
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volgrad500 said:
Ok, I'm starting to sound like a broken record…but how does ESPN label OSU-Baylor a play in game?? Already talked about OSU, but look at Baylor-they have a better record than us at 14-9 and a 49 RPI. THey have 4 wins against 42 or better rpi. Their worst loss is 103 Texas Tech, and the next "bad loss" is rpi 68 West VIrginia. And their SOS is 8!! But if they lose to OSU tonight, they are out??
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Actually most currently have them out. They're 4-8 in conference, loss means the best they can finish is 7-9 in conference. It's happened, but it's rare for teams to get in with under .500 record.

Plus they've lost 7 of their last 10, this would be 8 of 11 so they're really falling apart late.
 
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volgrad500 said:
That seems crazy to me. I understand that conference record should be looked at, but with a better SOS, RPI, and quality wins than us, how are they out and we are in?
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One or both of Baylor and OSU will end with a losing conference record. If they end up 8-10, then they could be in. But I don't see a team at 7-11 or worse in conference making the tournament regardless of RPI.
 
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volgrad500 said:
Gotcha. But I thought the committee had said they no longer consider that? I'm hoping, since we have lost 6 0f 11 haha.
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They don't look at just the final 10, they do however look at a trend. They're trending down rapidly, a lot of it is projections too.

Their upcoming schedule is rough, likely 3 more losses to come at least.
 
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To control our own bubble destiny Tennessee can only lose 1 game NOT named Missouri. If that 1 game is NOT Georgia or Vanderbilt, then Tennessee can't lose at Missouri.

EVEN in the case above, the Ballervols are gonna have to press their bets and hope for a good roll of the dice by other teams.

The other alternative is that Tennessee beats Missouri going into the SEC tournament and makes a bit of noise. That seems like an option… but noise doesn't necessarily mean making it to the semi-finals. It means beating a ranked opponent… which are rare in the SEC.

Here is hoping. I'll be cheering like heck. BTW - Rock and Rye whiskey is delicious.
 
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Need Baylor to win. OSU has the easier schedule rest of the way. Baylor still plays at WV, at Texas, and at Kansas State with Iowa State at home.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Need Baylor to win. OSU has the easier schedule rest of the way. Baylor still plays at WV, at Texas, and at Kansas State with Iowa State at home.
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Neither has it easy, Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State for Okie State, but definitely agree we want Baylor.
 
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