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#126
bleedingTNorange said:
We control our own destiny, we may eventually need help if we lose more, but make no mistake we control our own destiny. .
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every team in the country controls their own destiny. You could literally be 0-24 right now, win your conference tournament, and get in. Saying we control our own destiny at this point is little comfort for a team that has actual talent and real expectations starting out the season.
 
#127
#127
bleedingTNorange said:
We control our own destiny, we may eventually need help if we lose more, but make no mistake we control our own destiny.

Winning at Bama bumped our RPI 7 spots, don't forget the weight that is put into road games. Win the next 5 and the RPI is down right around 40 heading into the Missouri game.
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Don't think you'll get that much boost off of those 5 games.
it's late. Needle moves in smaller increments last 4 weeks.
Like you say though, with this team it's wait and see.
 
#128
#128
volgrad500 said:
every team in the country controls their own destiny. You could literally be 0-24 right now, win your conference tournament, and get in. Saying we control our own destiny at this point is little comfort for a team that has actual talent and real expectations starting out the season.
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I'm talking without conference tourney, we control or own destiny to still get an at large, that better?
 
#129
#129
bleedingTNorange said:
Scroll down to where it has different records and RPIs...that has proven to be more accurate.

That says 19-11 is RPI of 46, I will challenge you to find me a high major to have ever missed the NCAAT with a RPI of 46 or better.

I'll wait...
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2007
Clemson 45
Fla ST 41
2006
Cincy 40
 
#130
#130
calban said:
Don't think you'll get that much boost off of those 5 games.
it's late. Needle moves in smaller increments last 4 weeks.
Like you say though, with this team it's wait and see.
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The positive is the bottom dwellers are road games, those will give you a bigger bump. Oregon beat a near triple digit RPI Oregon State team on the road today and their RPI jumped 7 spots.

We win those 5 games and the RPI is right at 40, look at the projections, that's where the numbers are coming from. A win at home to Missouri likely bumps us 3-4 spots to 36-37 like they project 20-10 at and a loss drops us around 6-7 spots which is why they project 19-11 at 46.
 
#132
#132
tennrich1 said:
And if anyone heard Vitale (which has gotten worse and worse to the point I can hardly listen to him) he KEPT going over and over to the horribleness of the SEC comparing the reason Kentucky and Florida needed to beat each other because the SEC just didn't offer a good win against any other team...Now granted that may be true but its not normal for a national figure like Vitale to go on and on ripping a person or league...at least not in my book...and besides if memorial serves me the SEC has won 3 national titles in NCAAM basketball in the last few years or so....
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I tried to watch that game last night but when I turned it on in the 1st half, I heard Vitale, I immediately turned it off. I can't handle him.
 
#133
#133
calban said:
Don't think you'll get that much boost off of those 5 games.
it's late. Needle moves in smaller increments last 4 weeks.
Like you say though, with this team it's wait and see.
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Minnesota just jumped 5 spots for beating a 12-13 team on the road.
 
#135
#135
You are forgetting the fact that weight is also put on how strongly you finish the season, particularly the last ten. If it were just rpi over the whole season it would be easy to set the field.
 
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#138
#138
bleedingTNorange said:
I will challenge you to find me a high major to have ever missed the NCAAT with a RPI of 46 or better since the tourney expanded to 68 teams.

I'll wait...
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I'd let you off the hook if you had not used the word "ever". Those examples were in the realm of "ever"
 
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#139
Dr H Lecter said:
I'd let you off the hook if you had not used the word "ever". Those examples were in the realm of "ever"
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It clearly states since the field expanded to 68, the teams listed were before the field expanded to 68.

The parameters are very simple, since the field expanded to 68 has there ever been a high major team left out of the dance with a RPI of 46 or better?

Like I said, it hasn't been "achieved yet", you're welcome to give it a crack.
 
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#141
Sounds like a classic Bill Clinton definition of "is". "Ever" doesn't really seem to be that hard of a word, but neither did the word "is."
 
#143
#143
Dr H Lecter said:
Sounds like a classic Bill Clinton definition of "is". "Ever" doesn't really seem to be that hard of a word, but neither did the word "is."
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What're you saying?

I'm trying to keep this as simple as I can...has there ever been a high major left out of the field of 68 with a RPI of 46 or better?
 
#144
#144
IMO, these are the teams that are in barring some sort of epic collapse

1. Syracuse
2. Duke
3. Virginia
4. North Carolina
5. Pitt
6. Cincinnati
7. Louisville
8. Uconn
9. Memphis
10. St. Louis
11. UMass
12. VCU
13. Kansas
14. Texas
15. Oklahoma
16. Iowa State
17. Kansas State
18. Colorado
19. Creighton
20. Villanova
21. Michigan
22. Michigan State
23. Iowa
24. Wisconsin
25. Ohio State
26. Wichita State
27. San Diego State
28. New Mexico
29. Arizona
30. UCLA
31. Arizona State
32. Florida
33. Kentucky
34. Gonzaga
35. America East
36. Atlantic Sun
37. Big Sky
38. Big South
39. Big West
40. Colonial
41. Conference USA
42. Horizon
43. Ivy
44. MAAC
45. Mid-American
46. MEAC
47. Northeast
48. Ohio Valley
49. Patriot
50. Southern
51. Southland
52. SWAC
53. Summit
54. Sun Belt
55. WAC
 
#145
#145
these are the folks on the bubble

Richmond
St. Joe’s
George Washington
Clemson
NC State
FSU
Nebraska
Xavier
Providence
Minnesota
UNLV
Boise State
California
Stanford
Ole Miss
LSU
Mizzou
Tennessee
Brigham Young
St. Mary’s
 
#146
#146
it's about 20 teams fighting for what will probably end up being around 10 spots...when you factor in bids that get stolen
 
#147
#147
bleedingTNorange said:
Now where does it state the sec is limited to 3 teams, if 4 teams have resumes better than other bubble teams then they'll get in. UT can go 5-1 and easily get in, saying otherwise is simply denying the facts. It's also saying that Tennessee will make history as the best RPI high major to get left out of the dance, with our SOS I see that as pretty unlikely.
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It doesn't state that it's limited to 3 teams, but if you think 4 teams make it then I'll have what you're smoking. UT, Mizzou, LSU, Ole Miss and Ark are average at best teams and on any given night they look like complete sh*t. I'll state right now if UT loses to Mizzou then they won't get in the tourney unless they get to the finals or win the SEC tourney. The SEC will be hard pressed to get 4 teams in this year.
 
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#148
#148
bleedingTNorange said:
You realize Missouri has a top 40 RPI, which means you're saying they would be the first high major ever left out with a RPI that good?

And right now brackets have 4 SEC teams in, Florida, Kentucky, Missouri and Tennessee.

The SEC was worse last season btw, and they got 4 teams in.
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No, they got 3 teams in.
 
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#149
99gator said:
these are the folks on the bubble

Richmond
St. Joe’s
George Washington
Clemson
NC State
FSU
Nebraska
Xavier
Providence
Minnesota
UNLV
Boise State
California
Stanford
Ole Miss
LSU
Mizzou
Tennessee
Brigham Young
St. Mary’s
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IMO

In:
Stanford
California
Minnesota

Out:
Clemson
Nc State
FSU
Nebraska
UNLV
Boise State
Ole Miss
LSU
SMC

Leaves:
Richmond
St. Joe's
George Washington
Xavier
Providence
Tennessee
BYU
Oklahoma State
Oregon
Georgetown
Baylor
Dayton


That's 12 teams for 10 spots without any bids being stolen.
 
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