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#101
Whatever minimal credibility BTO had has went flying out the window with his saying we still get in losing to Mizzou twice.
 
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#103
bleedingTNorange said:
I would bet anything that this is false. It's been almost 50 years since that happened and that's when only 40 teams made it. At least 3 SEC teams gets in, and quite possibly 4.
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the sec this year may be historically bad. you look at the teams who may have a shot at the ncaa tourney most if not all have some bad resumes. UGA is right now 3rd after beating ole miss, but there is no way we make it and there is no way tennessee makes it in either. you might be right that we get 3 in from the sec, but that is only if another teams wins the sec tourney. there isn't a team right now in the sec that isn't florida or kentucky that has a resume that makes it into the ncaa tourney. the sec will beat itself up the next few weeks which will only hurt everyone's resume.
 
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ZeroDarkThirty said:
the sec this year may be historically bad. you look at the teams who may have a shot at the ncaa tourney most if not all have some bad resumes. UGA is right now 3rd after beating ole miss, but there is no way we make it and there is no way tennessee makes it in either. you might be right that we get 3 in from the sec, but that is only if another teams wins the sec tourney. there isn't a team right now in the sec that isn't florida or kentucky that has a resume that makes it into the ncaa tourney. the sec will beat itself up the next few weeks which will only hurt everyone's resume.
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You realize Missouri has a top 40 RPI, which means you're saying they would be the first high major ever left out with a RPI that good?

And right now brackets have 4 SEC teams in, Florida, Kentucky, Missouri and Tennessee.

The SEC was worse last season btw, and they got 4 teams in.
 
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#105
bleedingTNorange said:
What does it mean then? What did it mean 2 years in a row that the 2nd place SEC team didn't get in but ones behind them in the standings did?
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It doesnt mean anything just like it wouldnt mean anything if I researched and found the teams that had lower rpi but finished higher in the standings that made the tourney.

When two teams are fairly even then im sure the committee throws out every angle when discussing the teams. Its only human nature to do so.

That being said I feel we make the tourney like I have said all along but a loss to anyone in our next few games and I wont be as confident.
 
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#106
volbeast33 said:
It doesnt mean anything just like it wouldnt mean anything if I researched and found the teams that had lower rpi but finished higher in the standings that made the tourney.

When two teams are fairly even then im sure the committee throws out every angle when discussing the teams. Its only human nature to do so.

That being said I feel we make the tourney like I have said all along but a loss to anyone in our next few games and I wont be as confident.
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Going out on quite a limb there lol
 
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#116
Ronny Swanson said:
Maybe the resume? Maybe it's the fact we aren't coached in any facet, so stringing together wins will be damn near impossible.
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The likely hood of stringing together wins isn't the debate, try to stay on topic. I'm saying if go 5-1 down the stretch we will still be in a position to make the dance.

Now...provide some facts to dispute that. I'll wait :whistling:
 
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#117
bleedingTNorange said:
The likely hood of stringing together wins isn't the debate, try to stay on topic. I'm saying if go 5-1 down the stretch we will still be in a position to make the dance.

Now...provide some facts to dispute that. I'll wait :whistling:
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In fairness, your statement is far from "fact".

We can go 3-3 down the stretch and be in position to make the dance. Also in position to miss the dance. None of that is fact. More like likelihoods.
 
#118
#118
bleedingTNorange said:
The likely hood of stringing together wins isn't the debate, try to stay on topic. I'm saying if go 5-1 down the stretch we will still be in a position to make the dance.

Now...provide some facts to dispute that. I'll wait :whistling:
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Projection now is 50.8 rpi and 19-11.
With no respect from the media or the committee for the SEC we'd probably be watching as 4th team conference.
Lose to MO at home and we'll be NIT bound.
 
#119
#119
NYC Vol said:
In fairness, your statement is far from "fact".

We can go 3-3 down the stretch and be in position to make the dance. Also in position to miss the dance. None of that is fact. More like likelihoods.
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Saying 5-1 we will be in a position to make the dance is absolutely a fact. Pick any loss you want, our RPI would be into the low 40s which is the very definition of "in position to make the dance".
 
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#120
calban said:
Projection now is 50.8 rpi and 19-11.
With no respect from the media or the committee for the SEC we'd probably be watching as 4th team conference.
Lose to MO at home and we'll be NIT bound.
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Didn't you say don't pay attention to that, and pay attention to the list below?

That says 19-11 RPI of 46, don't think there's ever been a high major left out since the field expanded with a RPI in that range.
 
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#121
gunner said:
It's very close, going 5-1 could keep them out, 4-2 and it's the NIT. A winning record in a weak league is a huge factor to the selection committee.
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And if anyone heard Vitale (which has gotten worse and worse to the point I can hardly listen to him) he KEPT going over and over to the horribleness of the SEC comparing the reason Kentucky and Florida needed to beat each other because the SEC just didn't offer a good win against any other team...Now granted that may be true but its not normal for a national figure like Vitale to go on and on ripping a person or league...at least not in my book...and besides if memorial serves me the SEC has won 3 national titles in NCAAM basketball in the last few years or so....
 
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#122
bleedingTNorange said:
Didn't you say don't pay attention to that, and pay attention to the list below?

That says 19-11 RPI of 46, don't think there's ever been a high major left out since the field expanded with a RPI in that range.
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I did say that.
But MO is the only game left to boost us above the 50 mark.
Xavier has stopped helping and has more losses coming.
we will need help.
 
#123
#123
bleedingTNorange said:
Saying 5-1 we will be in a position to make the dance is absolutely a fact. Pick any loss you want, our RPI would be into the low 40s which is the very definition of "in position to make the dance".
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"in position to make the dance" is subjective. I don't think we make the dance at 5-1. So we have differing opinions. I could throw mine out there and say it's fact too. Truth of the matter is neither is fact.

rpiforecast.com has our probably finish at 5-1 and RPI at 50. That's far from "low 40s". I suggest you look up the definition of "fact". After all, there is no debating facts and we seem to be debating whether or not we would be in position to make the dance if we finish 5-1.
 
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#124
calban said:
I did say that.
But MO is the only game left to boost us above the 50 mark.
Xavier has stopped helping and has more losses coming.
we will need help.
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We control our own destiny, we may eventually need help if we lose more, but make no mistake we control our own destiny.

Winning at Bama bumped our RPI 7 spots, don't forget the weight that is put into road games. Win the next 5 and the RPI is down right around 40 heading into the Missouri game.
 
#125
#125
NYC Vol said:
"in position to make the dance" is subjective. I don't think we make the dance at 5-1. So we have differing opinions. I could throw mine out there and say it's fact too. Truth of the matter is neither is fact.

rpiforecast.com has our probably finish at 5-1 and RPI at 50. That's far from "low 40s". I suggest you look up the definition of "fact". After all, there is no debating facts and we seem to be debating whether or not we would be in position to make the dance if we finish 5-1.
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Scroll down to where it has different records and RPIs...that has proven to be more accurate.

That says 19-11 is RPI of 46, I will challenge you to find me a high major to have ever missed the NCAAT with a RPI of 46 or better since the tourney expanded to 68 teams.

I'll wait...
 
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